Names of the FIA international court of appeal judges

[FourWheelDrift]

The people who are trusted with dealing with in most cases Formula One decisions. The latest to join is the former President of Malta! Joining Jean Luisi, Michael Grech and Jay Alexander.

I wonder how many of them have watched a race before?

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72127

[Teppic]

FourWheelDrift said:

The people who are trusted with dealing with in most cases Formula One decisions. The latest to join is the former President of Malta! Joining Jean Luisi, Michael Grech and Jay Alexander.

I wonder how many of them have watched a race before?

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72127

More importantly, what are their links (if any) to Ferrari?

[FourWheelDrift]

Full list on here of other members of the ICA - http://fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases/ica...

[Jungles]

FourWheelDrift said:

The people who are trusted with dealing with in most cases Formula One decisions. The latest to join is the former President of Malta! Joining Jean Luisi, Michael Grech and Jay Alexander.

I wonder how many of them have watched a race before?

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72127

Most of them probably have followed F1 for many many years, I suspect.

What makes you think they might never have watched a F1 race, or be interested in F1?

In any case, the most important thing about a judicial organisation like the ICA is their judicial expertise. De Marco has plenty of that.

[FourWheelDrift]

Jungles said:

FourWheelDrift said:

The people who are trusted with dealing with in most cases Formula One decisions. The latest to join is the former President of Malta! Joining Jean Luisi, Michael Grech and Jay Alexander.

I wonder how many of them have watched a race before?

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72127

Most of them probably have followed F1 for many many years, I suspect.

What makes you think they might never have watched a F1 race, or be interested in F1?

I didn't say that, I said I wonder how many of them have seen a race. My statement is just as ambiguous as yours in guessing that they have followed F1 for years, they might just as easily not. There is not evidence to suggest that either. Which is the reason for my question.

[Jungles]

FourWheelDrift said:

Jungles said:

FourWheelDrift said:

The people who are trusted with dealing with in most cases Formula One decisions. The latest to join is the former President of Malta! Joining Jean Luisi, Michael Grech and Jay Alexander.

I wonder how many of them have watched a race before?

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72127

Most of them probably have followed F1 for many many years, I suspect.

What makes you think they might never have watched a F1 race, or be interested in F1?

I didn't say that, I said I wonder how many of them have seen a race. My statement is just as ambiguous as yours in guessing that they have followed F1 for years, they might just as easily not. There is not evidence to suggest that either. Which is the reason for my question.

OK, it seems I tried to read between your lines too much. I thought you were making a rhetorical and sarcastic question about their credibility.

[10 Pence Short]

FourWheelDrift said:

Jungles said:

FourWheelDrift said:

The people who are trusted with dealing with in most cases Formula One decisions. The latest to join is the former President of Malta! Joining Jean Luisi, Michael Grech and Jay Alexander.

I wonder how many of them have watched a race before?

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72127

Most of them probably have followed F1 for many many years, I suspect.

What makes you think they might never have watched a F1 race, or be interested in F1?

I didn't say that, I said I wonder how many of them have seen a race. My statement is just as ambiguous as yours in guessing that they have followed F1 for years, they might just as easily not. There is not evidence to suggest that either. Which is the reason for my question.

In their positions I very much doubt it's that important whether or not they know much about the racing itself. I would imagine they'll be more involved in interpreting the regulations. Very much like a 'legal' court, if they need expert advice, both sides can draft in suitable witnesses to assist them.

Of more importance is their impartiality.

[odyssey2200]

I bet it's a well paid job!
Good sallary, lots of travel, lots of benefits
Company Ferrari....

[Jungles]

odyssey2200 said:

I bet it's a well paid job!
Good sallary, lots of travel, lots of benefits
Company Ferrari....

It's not actually. They serve as volunteers.

Edited by Jungles on Monday 17th November 10:00

[jamieboy]

Jungles said:

odyssey2200 said:

I bet it's a well paid job!
Good sallary, lots of travel, lots of benefits
Company Ferrari....

They're volunteers.

That's not fair - odyssey2200 had taken the time to come up with a comment which was as funny as it was startlingly original, and you have to spoil it with your facts.

[german tony]

Might be better if they didn't watch/attend the races - reduces the possibilty of bias perhaps.

[flemke]

german tony said:

Might be better if they didn't watch/attend the races - reduces the possibilty of bias perhaps.

Also reduces the possibility of understanding.

[Graham]

Jungles said:

odyssey2200 said:

I bet it's a well paid job!
Good sallary, lots of travel, lots of benefits
Company Ferrari....

It's not actually. They serve as volunteers.

Edited by Jungles on Monday 17th November 10:00

have you never heard of expenses you reckon these guys are doing it at a loss?

[german tony]

flemke said:

german tony said:

Might be better if they didn't watch/attend the races - reduces the possibilty of bias perhaps.

Also reduces the possibility of understanding.

True but since when has a senior judge understood anything going on around him/her?

[Jungles]

Graham said:

Jungles said:

odyssey2200 said:

I bet it's a well paid job!
Good sallary, lots of travel, lots of benefits
Company Ferrari....

It's not actually. They serve as volunteers.

Edited by Jungles on Monday 17th November 10:00

have you never heard of expenses you reckon these guys are doing it at a loss?

If they get paid for expenses, which I doubt, then it will most likely be paid - full or in part - by their ASN. After all, it's their ASN who nominate them for the position.

Even if the FIA does pay for expenses, that factor alone is no evidence of crookedness.

An ICA appointment is basically pro bono work. When you take on work for pro bono, you can expect to do it at a loss.

Edited by Jungles on Tuesday 18th November 10:29