where can i find out race results?
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Am i alone in not being able to find race results of Britcar events?
Is there some secret website i am missing, or i don't know the special handshake?
Is there anyone out there who can point me in the right directions???
now, i am a very keen motorsport fan and if i'm honest, quite an anorak and i like nothing better than pouring over results pages... i am happy with this season but get exstatic when i can search over past years and pick any race i want to and see who finished in 23rd but won their class...
but no matter how hard i try i can't seem to find accurate Britcar results...
dailysportscar usually has coverage but hasn't covered the brands event yet and i can piece bits together from pistonheads, but the britcar website seems to be useless as it only covers three events from this year!
now, i'm not knocking a fantastic championship but surely it can't be too hard to get someone to post up a results page (prefably not on pdf) sometime after the event?
if i'm missing something glaringly obvious then i apologise but at the moment i can't seem to find accurate results and an easy to read championship posistions page ANYWHERE that i can fulfill my information gathering needs... any help greatly appreciated!
Is there some secret website i am missing, or i don't know the special handshake?
Is there anyone out there who can point me in the right directions???
now, i am a very keen motorsport fan and if i'm honest, quite an anorak and i like nothing better than pouring over results pages... i am happy with this season but get exstatic when i can search over past years and pick any race i want to and see who finished in 23rd but won their class...
but no matter how hard i try i can't seem to find accurate Britcar results...
dailysportscar usually has coverage but hasn't covered the brands event yet and i can piece bits together from pistonheads, but the britcar website seems to be useless as it only covers three events from this year!
now, i'm not knocking a fantastic championship but surely it can't be too hard to get someone to post up a results page (prefably not on pdf) sometime after the event?
if i'm missing something glaringly obvious then i apologise but at the moment i can't seem to find accurate results and an easy to read championship posistions page ANYWHERE that i can fulfill my information gathering needs... any help greatly appreciated!
Even TSL's results PDF seems to miss the Britcar race off.
By the way, I'm referring to the PDF file here:
http://www.tsl-timing.com/?loc=club&season=200...
It should eventually be updated to include our race, I guess.
By the way, I'm referring to the PDF file here:
http://www.tsl-timing.com/?loc=club&season=200...
It should eventually be updated to include our race, I guess.
Edited by Ahonen on Sunday 16th November 23:05
Ahonen said:
Even TSL's results PDF seems to miss the Britcar race off.
By the way, I'm referring to the PDF file here:
http://www.tsl-timing.com/?loc=club&season=200...
It should eventually be updated to include our race, I guess.
Use the link above, open results and go to page 60By the way, I'm referring to the PDF file here:
http://www.tsl-timing.com/?loc=club&season=200...
It should eventually be updated to include our race, I guess.
Edited by Ahonen on Sunday 16th November 23:05
CLAIRE BRITCAR said:
Britcar only ran two events in 2008.
If you want full results of all our races please look either under MSVR or BRSCC and the date/circuit on the TSL website.
sorry but i don't buy this. you may have only RUN two "events" in 2008, but surely the rest of the "events" are part of the britcar championship?If you want full results of all our races please look either under MSVR or BRSCC and the date/circuit on the TSL website.
correct me if i am wrong - i have, afterall, no experience running a major sports and touring car championship - but if the other events were not affiliated with you then wouldn't the champion have been crowned months ago?
therefore, i stand by my original comment that it shouldn't be TOO hard to post the race results for the ENTIRE britcar championship including an easy to understand format?
lets take the german VLN championship as an example, this is, afterall the championship i presume britcar would be most closely aligned too?
anyway, as previously mentioned i enjoy nothing more than pouring over race results and despite not speaking more than a few words of german ("rennen" is clearly "race") i can navigate my way around their website showing me every race result this season, and indeed back to 1998!
it also shows class winner, and the lap time of EACH and EVERY competitor... a bit extreme perhaps, but also worth taking note of... the nurburgring 24 hours site goes one step further and translates all this info (including going back to 1981... before i was born!) into english so people as lazy as me who can't be bothered to learn german or translate the page can read in comfort...
PLUS, they live streamed the 24 hours, which in addition to radiolemans.com meant i could follow the race to my heart was content! again, i'm not saying you SHOULD do this, it would be cool but i understand it would all cost money...
with that in mind, would it not be possible for the UK's premier club racing (i hope that is an accurate reflection of your series) to just post some measly race results and an easy to understand championship table?
rant over, i apologise if sounding a bit harsh in places... but i feel my points are valid!
Don`t be too harsh on Britcar re: results.
The race finished very late on Saturday (it was a night race!), and there was a delay in timing solutions posting the Britcar section of the download onto the meeting, (they did it first thing Monday morning).
Timing solutions (formerly MST timing) group all the results by meeting organisers. As such the Britcar section only contains the 3 meetings Britcar ran on their own (including the 24 hour race).
To be fair it wouldn`t take much for Britcar to hyperlink directly to each meeting rather than a general re-direction to the timing solutions website but the Britcar website has never been the easiest to navigate and is very much a work in progress. It has much improved of late and I`m sure your thoughts will be taken on by them.
It is something that`s confused me in the past a bit until I searched Timing solution`s website a bit. The only meetings you can`t get were the A1 GP round and the Spa round because they were timed by people other than TSL. I seem to recall I did track down the Spa round somewhere but not the A1 GP meeting.
All the best.
Henry
The race finished very late on Saturday (it was a night race!), and there was a delay in timing solutions posting the Britcar section of the download onto the meeting, (they did it first thing Monday morning).
Timing solutions (formerly MST timing) group all the results by meeting organisers. As such the Britcar section only contains the 3 meetings Britcar ran on their own (including the 24 hour race).
To be fair it wouldn`t take much for Britcar to hyperlink directly to each meeting rather than a general re-direction to the timing solutions website but the Britcar website has never been the easiest to navigate and is very much a work in progress. It has much improved of late and I`m sure your thoughts will be taken on by them.
It is something that`s confused me in the past a bit until I searched Timing solution`s website a bit. The only meetings you can`t get were the A1 GP round and the Spa round because they were timed by people other than TSL. I seem to recall I did track down the Spa round somewhere but not the A1 GP meeting.
All the best.
Henry
Henry-F said:
There you go!
Were you at brands on saturday Paul ? I didn't see you anywhere. The one meeting it's not brass monkey weather or blowing a gale freezing the shutter off your SLR is the November night race. Go figure our British weather
H.
No, shame I had to miss it but it clashed with the Macau GP. Not bad weather over there either. Were you at brands on saturday Paul ? I didn't see you anywhere. The one meeting it's not brass monkey weather or blowing a gale freezing the shutter off your SLR is the November night race. Go figure our British weather
H.
Catching up on all the gossip now.Henry-F said:
Don`t be too harsh on Britcar re: results.
i don't want to come across too harsh, but feel my points are still valid!i'll be totally honest and say i've only really been following Britcar from this season as it apart from the 24 hour race it has kinda passed me by.
and i think there in lies the problem, if a sad anorak endurance racing fan like myself finds it hard to follow your series, how are you going to get average punters turning up at races and cheering on teams?
i have to admit to being shocked after turning up at the silverstone LMS race - i got there about 45 minutes after the race start due to work commitments and had to park in a field on the otherside of the duel carridgeway outside silverstone, i have never parked any further away than the gravel car park for any event before!
now, i understand that there is no one giving away 30,000 tickets for britcar events, but for that amount of people to turn up means that some of them are going to be hooked on endurance racing and are undoubtably going to try and find out more about different aspects of our favourite motorsport
coupled in the top gear coverage of the 2007 britcar 24 hours, which whether good or bad is STILL publicity means there must be people out there wanting to know about this series... there must be some people desperate to find out information yet on finding the official website they get told nothing... even the wikipedia entry is rubbish!
when i found out i could enter the britcar 24 hours as a novice it almost made me sell all my worldly goods and try to take up motorsport there and then! britcar needs some publication... and fast! i mean, pistonheads forum is the place where i can find most of my information!
i respect everything costs money but time you must have and all it will take is time to start with your website being upgraded, then perhaps someone could post a better wikipedia entry (surely this must be everyone's starting point for knowledge in 2008) then you might slowly find more and more people trickle into watching your sport...
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