Time to consider cheaper motorsport .. drifting anyone?
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I have become pretty downhearted with the cost of rallying/racing but still want to have some fun.
Looking around... either i buy a very small rallycar or formula ford(fun but been there) or???
So I sold my trusty old tuscan race car and bought a full spec top european drift car 480bhp to 600bhp for so much less money.
i can hear purists groaning from here
but i considered the following....
1/its quite entertaining to slide around at full chat,especially side by side, and pleasure to drive something powerful with no restrictor!
2/it is substantially cheaper than most other motorsport.(25 pounds for a BDC licence...no money for max moseley is a bonus.
3/ the interest is incredible.....i have to say mainly 16 to 30 year olds (except me). jdm style events can attract 15,000 people....be nice to see that at a club race! but sponsors do realise its the fastest growing sport at the moment and are a bit more receptive. i remember ,by the way screaming around in a cooper s at 18 ...mature people hated it! so remember when we were 18 please chaps.
4/Its potential is good long term as all the 16 year olds see it as we saw f1 and group b cars...and they are the future competitors. they can buy a cheap 325 or 200sx nissan and at least have a go cheaply.
5/its organisation is run by volunteers and the emphasis is on pure fun, although the top guys ,entering corners at over 100mph are entertaining!
6/it is possible,if you have the car control, to buy a very cheap rwd car,and compete next years BDC championship,subject to a licencing day attendance.....one at oulton on 24th january..if you think you are up to it !
if you look on the drifting sites like driftworks you will see the scale of interest.....
i post this as i would like to see some......er more mature people competing with me next year !!
get those tvr's,bmw's,cosworths etc used!
parxy
Looking around... either i buy a very small rallycar or formula ford(fun but been there) or???
So I sold my trusty old tuscan race car and bought a full spec top european drift car 480bhp to 600bhp for so much less money.
i can hear purists groaning from here
but i considered the following....1/its quite entertaining to slide around at full chat,especially side by side, and pleasure to drive something powerful with no restrictor!
2/it is substantially cheaper than most other motorsport.(25 pounds for a BDC licence...no money for max moseley is a bonus.
3/ the interest is incredible.....i have to say mainly 16 to 30 year olds (except me). jdm style events can attract 15,000 people....be nice to see that at a club race! but sponsors do realise its the fastest growing sport at the moment and are a bit more receptive. i remember ,by the way screaming around in a cooper s at 18 ...mature people hated it! so remember when we were 18 please chaps.
4/Its potential is good long term as all the 16 year olds see it as we saw f1 and group b cars...and they are the future competitors. they can buy a cheap 325 or 200sx nissan and at least have a go cheaply.
5/its organisation is run by volunteers and the emphasis is on pure fun, although the top guys ,entering corners at over 100mph are entertaining!
6/it is possible,if you have the car control, to buy a very cheap rwd car,and compete next years BDC championship,subject to a licencing day attendance.....one at oulton on 24th january..if you think you are up to it !
if you look on the drifting sites like driftworks you will see the scale of interest.....
i post this as i would like to see some......er more mature people competing with me next year !!
get those tvr's,bmw's,cosworths etc used!
parxy
parxy said:
Altrezia said:
phatgixer said:
Pikey sport.
Yep.intelligent post.
He-Hey!
Edited by phatgixer on Friday 5th December 13:56
parxy said:
gtdc said:
I think you will only enjoy it if you already own some Burberry.
is that an official response from brdc /goldtrack melindi? i think BDC/EDC are customers of silverstone.....that will help with your pr in getting goldtrack customers no end.!
it was a red flag lap, to be fair
having seen some drifitng on television it doesnt look that cheap to me, lots of trick LSDs and mega boost jap turbo cars. sure you get a few in MX5s and cheaper things but drifing to me is not motorsport, anything that can be subjectively judged isnt even a sport. motorsport should be about being the fastest, end of.
i am always amazed at people who say " for a season you need to budget (insert ridiculous figure here) for travel and accomodation..." f
k that, if i was lucky enough to have a racing car it would be on a seriously tight budget to the point that i would be up at 5am driving to the circuit, race, then come home and get back at midnight. sure i would be tired but it would mean i could race and wouldnt be spending loads of money on hotels and things.
cheap motorsport can be any regular club championship. you just have to accept that any money you can spare for racing is spent on entry fees and accepting that you cant afford a new engine/tyres/suspension and perhaps you wont win any races in the forthcoming season, i find a lot of people unable to accept this however and they look at selling their car and entering an alternative series where they can still win. whatever happened to "i'm in it just for the fun of it?!"
i am always amazed at people who say " for a season you need to budget (insert ridiculous figure here) for travel and accomodation..." f
k that, if i was lucky enough to have a racing car it would be on a seriously tight budget to the point that i would be up at 5am driving to the circuit, race, then come home and get back at midnight. sure i would be tired but it would mean i could race and wouldnt be spending loads of money on hotels and things.cheap motorsport can be any regular club championship. you just have to accept that any money you can spare for racing is spent on entry fees and accepting that you cant afford a new engine/tyres/suspension and perhaps you wont win any races in the forthcoming season, i find a lot of people unable to accept this however and they look at selling their car and entering an alternative series where they can still win. whatever happened to "i'm in it just for the fun of it?!"
I know a couple 'divs' who bought a cheap 200sx last weekend with the intention of learning to drift next year.
The o/h is one of the loons and he already takes part in club motorsport, so that is most of our weekends out of the window (racing already used up 80%).
So if anyone wants to amuse a girl next year, just let me know.
The boys (both a way past 30) pick up the car tomorrow. Being ph'ers, they will probably comment on their joy.
I am sure they will welcome lots of advice.
The o/h is one of the loons and he already takes part in club motorsport, so that is most of our weekends out of the window (racing already used up 80%).
So if anyone wants to amuse a girl next year, just let me know.
The boys (both a way past 30) pick up the car tomorrow. Being ph'ers, they will probably comment on their joy.
I am sure they will welcome lots of advice.
Edited by Nicol@ on Friday 5th December 14:50
pablo said:
having seen some drifitng on television it doesnt look that cheap to me, lots of trick LSDs and mega boost jap turbo cars. sure you get a few in MX5s and cheaper things but drifing to me is not motorsport, anything that can be subjectively judged isnt even a sport. motorsport should be about being the fastest, end of.
i am always amazed at people who say " for a season you need to budget (insert ridiculous figure here) for travel and accomodation..." fk that, if i was lucky enough to have a racing car it would be on a seriously tight budget to the point that i would be up at 5am driving to the circuit, race, then come home and get back at midnight. sure i would be tired but it would mean i could race and wouldnt be spending loads of money on hotels and things.
cheap motorsport can be any regular club championship. you just have to accept that any money you can spare for racing is spent on entry fees and accepting that you cant afford a new engine/tyres/suspension and perhaps you wont win any races in the forthcoming season, i find a lot of people unable to accept this however and they look at selling their car and entering an alternative series where they can still win. whatever happened to "i'm in it just for the fun of it?!"
pablo i accept some of your points but you simply cant do a national racing series at a good level without a fair old budget. i am always amazed at people who say " for a season you need to budget (insert ridiculous figure here) for travel and accomodation..." f
k that, if i was lucky enough to have a racing car it would be on a seriously tight budget to the point that i would be up at 5am driving to the circuit, race, then come home and get back at midnight. sure i would be tired but it would mean i could race and wouldnt be spending loads of money on hotels and things.cheap motorsport can be any regular club championship. you just have to accept that any money you can spare for racing is spent on entry fees and accepting that you cant afford a new engine/tyres/suspension and perhaps you wont win any races in the forthcoming season, i find a lot of people unable to accept this however and they look at selling their car and entering an alternative series where they can still win. whatever happened to "i'm in it just for the fun of it?!"
i just prefer big brake horse and sliding around having fun personally
cheers
I think you're potentially going to be disappointed by asking for opinions on here. You're better off buying a very cheap driftable car (like an old 200SX) and entering an event to find out what it's like yourself. It can be a lot of fun to take part in and watch but the way drifting events have been run in this country doesn't do this so-called sport any favours I'm afraid.
Like a lot of amateur sports and pastimes, it can be very cliquey, very political and very badly organised, but if you find you fit in and enjoy taking part then great! That will then be the time to spend a bit more money and buy something more serious.
In the same way, I wouldn't advise you to go out and spend £2000 on a set of clubs if you were just starting to play golf. Apart from anything, you'd have the piss taken out of you by the 'pros'.
Like a lot of amateur sports and pastimes, it can be very cliquey, very political and very badly organised, but if you find you fit in and enjoy taking part then great! That will then be the time to spend a bit more money and buy something more serious.
In the same way, I wouldn't advise you to go out and spend £2000 on a set of clubs if you were just starting to play golf. Apart from anything, you'd have the piss taken out of you by the 'pros'.
fastfreddy said:
I think you're potentially going to be disappointed by asking for opinions on here. You're better off buying a very cheap driftable car (like an old 200SX) and entering an event to find out what it's like yourself. It can be a lot of fun to take part in and watch but the way drifting events have been run in this country doesn't do this so-called sport any favours I'm afraid.
Like a lot of amateur sports and pastimes, it can be very cliquey, very political and very badly organised, but if you find you fit in and enjoy taking part then great! That will then be the time to spend a bit more money and buy something more serious.
In the same way, I wouldn't advise you to go out and spend £2000 on a set of clubs if you were just starting to play golf. Apart from anything, you'd have the piss taken out of you by the 'pros'.
i really do enjoy most motorsports and have done most over the last 30 years Like a lot of amateur sports and pastimes, it can be very cliquey, very political and very badly organised, but if you find you fit in and enjoy taking part then great! That will then be the time to spend a bit more money and buy something more serious.
In the same way, I wouldn't advise you to go out and spend £2000 on a set of clubs if you were just starting to play golf. Apart from anything, you'd have the piss taken out of you by the 'pros'.
i teach race and rally and drifting and enjoy them all equally but i enjoy rear drive and sliding around most the full spec car i bought was an awful lot less to buy than the tuscan challenge car so at least ive a chance and the people are great in spite of some of the opinions posted!
phatgixer said:
parxy said:
.... and the people are great in spite of some of the opinions posted!
Oh, I agree. It is just all those little dogs running about might be a bit dangerous. do you compete at all ? what was 660 bhp?
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