Webber's recovery
Webber's recovery
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garycat

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5,383 posts

239 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2009
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/73109

"Webber's treatment sees him use cold chambers for three minutes at a time - something which he thinks helps his overall well-being too.

"I've been doing it for three weeks now," he explained. "You go from a normal, ambient room temperature into a chamber of -50°C for about 30 seconds and then for another three minutes into -130°C."

3 minutes at -130°C - Brrrr!!!!

How the hell does that aid recovery?

rude-boy

22,227 posts

262 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2009
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Not a clue, but i'll bet it makes your knob small!

zac510

5,546 posts

235 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2009
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-130C?

Is that the right unit of temperature?!

philis

415 posts

246 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2009
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I think it shrivels the penis and devoids it of all blood, sending it instead to damaged tissue and healing it fastertongue out

DangerousMike

11,327 posts

221 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2009
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wikipedia said:
Cryogenic chamber therapy is a treatment whereby the patient is placed in a cryogenic chamber for a short duration (i.e. no more than three minutes, which is comparable to ice swimming), and if used properly, will not destroy tissue. Whole body cryotherapy initially originated in Japan in 1978. However, it was a group of Polish scientists who took the idea and made whole body cryotherapy the physical therapy it is today. The Olympic rehabilitation centre in Spala, Poland opened in May 2000 and has been used as a training and injury rehabilitation centre for many sporting bodies.
The chamber is cooled, typically with liquid nitrogen, to a temperature of –110 C. The patient is protected from acute frostbite with socks, gloves and mouth and ear protection, but in addition to that, wears nothing but a bathing suit. The patient spends a few minutes in the chamber. During treatment the average skin temperature drops to 12 C, while the coldest skin temperature can be 5 C. The core body temperature remains unchanged during the treatment, however it may drop slightly afterwards. Therapy triggers the release of endorphines which induce analgesia (immediate pain relief).
Patients report that the experience is invigorating and improves a variety of conditions such as psychological stress, insomnia, rheumatism, muscle and joint pain, fibromyalgia, itching, and psoriasis. The immediate effect of skin cooling and analgesia lasts for 5 minutes, but the release of endorphines can have a lasting effect, where the pains and signs of inflammation as found in blood tests remain suppressed for weeks. The effects of extreme cold and endorphine release are scientifically studied. Curiously, some patients compare the feeling to sauna at +110 C.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryotherapy_(chamber_therapy)

deevlash

10,442 posts

266 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2009
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-130? I assume thats how many points behind vettel he'll be this year

paulrockliffe

16,566 posts

256 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2009
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As someone that has done drugs testing that involved pain testing where my hand was immersed in water at 2 degrees (above zero!) for 90 seconds, I find it difficult to believe -130 degrees! I know air and water are different, but that 2 degrees was extremely painful!

DangerousMike

11,327 posts

221 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2009
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on the other hand, i regularly spill liquid nitrogen on my hands/arms... doesn't hurt at all, and it is -180 ºC.

Your skin tends to create a warmer layer of gas around it.

Altrezia

8,741 posts

240 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2009
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DangerousMike said:
on the other hand, i regularly spill liquid nitrogen on my hands/arms... doesn't hurt at all, and it is -180 ºC.

Your skin tends to create a warmer layer of gas around it.
That sounds dangerous, Mike.

FourWheelDrift

92,293 posts

313 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2009
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He's got to rush back to fitness, that 9th place isn't going to get itself.

paulrockliffe

16,566 posts

256 months

Wednesday 4th February 2009
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DangerousMike said:
on the other hand, i regularly spill liquid nitrogen on my hands/arms... doesn't hurt at all, and it is -180 ºC.

Your skin tends to create a warmer layer of gas around it.
Is it not that the liquid nitrogen numbs freezes the nerves so quickly the pain signals never reach the brain? That wouldn't happen with air at that temperature as it would cool much slower, but it's not really about the pain is it, its the damage that sort of temperature would do.

toomuchbeer

877 posts

237 months

Wednesday 4th February 2009
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FourWheelDrift said:
He's got to rush back to fitness, that 9th place isn't going to get itself.
rofl Thanks, having a st day, and thats just what I needed.

hondafanatic

4,969 posts

230 months

Wednesday 4th February 2009
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FourWheelDrift said:
He's got to rush back to fitness, that 9th place isn't going to get itself.
bow - brilliant.

german tony

2,000 posts

237 months

Wednesday 4th February 2009
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Are pain killers allowed under the current drug testing regime?

stuttgartmetal

8,154 posts

245 months

Wednesday 4th February 2009
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With an air gap its not exactly cold water immersion.

He'd get a decent endorphin release from eating a nice Chicken Tindaloo.
A bit hotter than the Vindaloo, I'd recommend it.

Tindaloo

Of course a 10th would mean the bottom would fall out of his world, however with hot therapy, the world would fall out of his bottom.

As you were.








Yeah Baby, Yeah



Ockside

88 posts

283 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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I spoke to his father a couple of weeks back and his recovery is coming on.

I hope he has a great season with the Redbull Team. He will be under some preasure from Vettel so hopefully he will deliver some good results.

pw75

1,032 posts

227 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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FourWheelDrift said:
He's got to rush back to fitness, that 9th place isn't going to get itself.
pmsl

sa_20v

4,112 posts

260 months

Friday 13th February 2009
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One of our guys caught up with Mark during the Jerez test, seems he's his usual self! biggrin

http://www.forumula1.net/2009/f1/lead_articles/exc...

stuttgartmetal

8,154 posts

245 months

Friday 13th February 2009
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Someones slapped him in the boat with a wet sponge, and he's fine.

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 13th February 2009
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His first day in the car went really well, better than expected. Don't think his leg will be a big issue once the season is underway.