Mosley tempted by fifth term as FIA President
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Well that should come as a big surprise to all of us - not !
From F1-live
Max Mosley on Wednesday said he feels tempted to stand for a fifth consecutive term as FIA President.
The 68-year-old, embroiled in a sex scandal last year, has often said he intends to stand down in October, but he now confirms that he is considering contesting the next election.
Mosley told reporters at a media lunch at the Poissonnerie de l'Avenue restaurant in Chelsea that he will make up his mind by June.
Asked if he is tempted to stand for a fifth term, he answered: "Yes. If a lot of people say to you, 'you should stay', it's churlish in a way not to. People have indicated they want to go on with the status quo and that is pretty widespread.”
"That is nice and flattering, but I've got to ask myself if that's what I really want to do," said the Briton.
Figures including former Ferrari boss Jean Todt, and 56-year-old Ari Vatanen, the 1981 world rally champion-turned European parliamentarian, have been named as possible alternatives to Mosley.
Mosley said he expects ‘six or seven’ candidates to be in the running.
"(The role) needs someone with experience to guide Formula One, but it would be presumptuous of me to think that I'm that person," he explained.
From F1-live
Max Mosley on Wednesday said he feels tempted to stand for a fifth consecutive term as FIA President.
The 68-year-old, embroiled in a sex scandal last year, has often said he intends to stand down in October, but he now confirms that he is considering contesting the next election.
Mosley told reporters at a media lunch at the Poissonnerie de l'Avenue restaurant in Chelsea that he will make up his mind by June.
Asked if he is tempted to stand for a fifth term, he answered: "Yes. If a lot of people say to you, 'you should stay', it's churlish in a way not to. People have indicated they want to go on with the status quo and that is pretty widespread.”
"That is nice and flattering, but I've got to ask myself if that's what I really want to do," said the Briton.
Figures including former Ferrari boss Jean Todt, and 56-year-old Ari Vatanen, the 1981 world rally champion-turned European parliamentarian, have been named as possible alternatives to Mosley.
Mosley said he expects ‘six or seven’ candidates to be in the running.
"(The role) needs someone with experience to guide Formula One, but it would be presumptuous of me to think that I'm that person," he explained.
madmax said:
"(The role) needs someone with experience to guide of trying to fxxx up Formula One, but it would be presumptuous of me to think that I'm that person."
Seriously though, this is the man who when fighting for his position last year, was all about explaining how F1 is such a small part of his job and how vital it was to have him for all the other reasons.Sorry Max, time to go (long ago).
He's also having yet another pop at Jackie Stewart:
From here:
www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/73124
From here:
www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/73124
spanky said:
"The interesting thing is where it (the rumours) could have come from. It has to be someone with some kind of connection to F1. He's got to have some connection with Scotland.
"He's got to have no understanding of how F1 or the FIA work, and he has to be unusually stupid. There's at least one person who ticks all those boxes."
"He's got to have no understanding of how F1 or the FIA work, and he has to be unusually stupid. There's at least one person who ticks all those boxes."
Edited by Muzzlehatch on Thursday 5th February 11:29
The man's arrogance knows no bounds, sadly. I really hope Ari puts his name into the hat, I'm sure there would be a real groundswell of support for one man, much in the same way there was for Max when he stood against Balestre. If he's going to copy Jean-Marie then he needs to be reminded of how that particular story ends.
zac510 said:
Or that guy from RBS..
Recent reports and speculation linking Sir Fred Goodwin with the FIA Presidency was ‘nonsense’, Max Mosley said on Wednesday.Rumours indicated that Goodwin, the controversial former Chief Executive of the struggling Royal Bank of Scotland, was being lined up for Mosley's role at the expiry of his current term later this year.
"Last week Sir Fred called me to say it was all nonsense," Mosley, who is considering standing for re-election, is quoted as saying by the Daily Telegraph "He was obviously rather embarrassed," the 68-year-old added at a media lunch in London.
Although he did not specifically name the former triple world champion Sir Jackie Stewart, Mosley hinted strongly that he suspects the origin of the Goodwin speculation.
"It has to be someone with some kind of connection to F1. He's got to have some connection with Scotland. He's got to have no understanding of how F1 or the FIA work, and he has to be unusually stupid.”
"There's at least one person who ticks all those boxes," Mosley said.
What an odious prick.
It must be odd to be so universally hated, and it's amusing that far from rising above it, as he likes to portray, he feels so threatened by the fact that the public like Sir JS with as much fervour as they despise himself that he needs to take a pop all the time.
Thing is, fair play to him, get away with all the machinations for as long as possible given that everyone involved is so spineless as to actually stand up to him.
A fifth term is a certainty were he to stand and it's not him I blame any longer.
It must be odd to be so universally hated, and it's amusing that far from rising above it, as he likes to portray, he feels so threatened by the fact that the public like Sir JS with as much fervour as they despise himself that he needs to take a pop all the time.
Thing is, fair play to him, get away with all the machinations for as long as possible given that everyone involved is so spineless as to actually stand up to him.
A fifth term is a certainty were he to stand and it's not him I blame any longer.
kevin ritson said:
DrTre said:
It must be odd to be so universally hated
One wonders if he gets a thrill from it? 
Rev, sadly we've all been hoping the very same thing for a long time...he manages to weather every storm...
ETA Apologies for being so crude but he's such a figure of fun he invites it.
Edited by DrTre on Thursday 5th February 14:19
rev-erend said:
DrTre said:
What an odious prick.
Agree with that .. Hopefully everyone has a long memory and kicks him into history.
However, his hypocrisy knows no bounds. During the FISA/FOCA wars, he helped the constructors gain a much greater portion of the commercial rights of GP racing. But in this century, he allowed Bernie Ecclestone the rights to the sport for 100 years at a nominal sum. So Bernie sells the rights to CVC at an enormous profit, putting CVC into such crippling debt that the fans, the teams and everyone else connected to the sport is now screwed. And yet despite this, a raft of finance-draining rule changes – including the dreaded KERS – he has the balls to stand up and say the teams are spending too much. And after levying a £100 million fine on McLaren – let’s not mention Renault getting away with just a stern ticking off – as the world lurches its worse economic crisis in living memory. This is before we even mention his private life...
Now he believes he is the man to guide the sport through its most difficult times. If he can’t manage to guide the sport through its very best times, how on earth will he fare now?!
As a man of towering intellect and vast experience of all aspects of the sport, from ground level up, I feel that I ought to respect the man, and yet he has ruined WRC and has left F1 in such dire financial straits, it’s hard to see what’s going to be left in five years time. I’m sure that, as I type this, one of his henchmen will have ensured I never attend a Grand Prix again, but he needs to step down in October and stay away for a good while.
chevronb37 said:
rev-erend said:
DrTre said:
What an odious prick.
Agree with that .. Hopefully everyone has a long memory and kicks him into history.
One of their ugliest creations ever
761 with Peterson at the wheel, or 782 with Rad Dougall or Alex Ribiero etc, now youre talking
freedman said:
chevronb37 said:
rev-erend said:
DrTre said:
What an odious prick.
Agree with that .. Hopefully everyone has a long memory and kicks him into history.
One of their ugliest creations ever
761 with Peterson at the wheel, or 782 with Rad Dougall or Alex Ribiero etc, now youre talking
That doesn't mean that Mosley isn't a dreadful person though.
chevronb37 said:
rev-erend said:
DrTre said:
What an odious prick.
Agree with that .. Hopefully everyone has a long memory and kicks him into history.
However, his hypocrisy knows no bounds. During the FISA/FOCA wars, he helped the constructors gain a much greater portion of the commercial rights of GP racing. But in this century, he allowed Bernie Ecclestone the rights to the sport for 100 years at a nominal sum. So Bernie sells the rights to CVC at an enormous profit, putting CVC into such crippling debt that the fans, the teams and everyone else connected to the sport is now screwed. And yet despite this, a raft of finance-draining rule changes – including the dreaded KERS – he has the balls to stand up and say the teams are spending too much. And after levying a £100 million fine on McLaren – let’s not mention Renault getting away with just a stern ticking off – as the world lurches its worse economic crisis in living memory. This is before we even mention his private life...
Now he believes he is the man to guide the sport through its most difficult times. If he can’t manage to guide the sport through its very best times, how on earth will he fare now?!
As a man of towering intellect and vast experience of all aspects of the sport, from ground level up, I feel that I ought to respect the man, and yet he has ruined WRC and has left F1 in such dire financial straits, it’s hard to see what’s going to be left in five years time. I’m sure that, as I type this, one of his henchmen will have ensured I never attend a Grand Prix again, but he needs to step down in October and stay away for a good while.
I'm just not so sure about the towering intellect bit. One must ask oneself what he has done. Lawyering doesn't require that much intelligence to be quite successful and that's all he was in the legal profession. Those who have the intellect go a lot further than him. The man was put through private schools as a kid, getting the best of private educations and, more importantly, connections.
Running the FiA takes something but I'm not sure it is intellect any more than running an east end gang does. All that is needed is cunning. And, of course, 'a few good men to do nothing'.
Mosley was only better than Balestre because he wasn't that apparent. He changed after he lost that vote on karting, resigned, fogot he resigned and then replaced all those who voted against him. The actual procedure is well covered in an article in Pitpass. From then on he was in total control of the FiA and, by default, Formula 1. That's when things began to fall apart. The one-horse Indy race was a disaster by anyone's reckoning. I can't see how anyone could justify keeping him in the post after he orchestrated that farce. And now we're looking at just 25% or less of GPs in Europe.
He seemed to change when he got some new 'advisors' around him, going from a nonentity to a failure in one easy step.
A good manager would have done so much so differently. He seems intent on changing Formula 1 into something that no one wants. He's increased costs dramatically in the run up to the biggest recession - but not depression - in, as you say, living memory. If he wanted to decrease the costs to the teams there were so many other ways of going about it.
I find the man destable for reasons other than his FiA sojourn but I try not to let that influence my opinion of his performance as president. My considered opinion is that he's a disaster for the sport.
Scuffers said:
FFS can't somebody just have a word in his ear? (or park a horses head in his bed?)
made me chuckle. Seriously though, the guy is incompetant. How he managed to win the vote of confidence after naZi? gate is beyond me. Ari vatenan gets my vote out of the people that are currently being suggested.I know that he is outspoken (in a considered, calm manner)n but why do spanky and shorty have such a problem with jackie stewart? Is there something I have missed? If he is getting called stupid for being extremely dyslexic then that just reflects badly on spanky. Let's face it, JYS has done more to progress the standards in F1 safety than max and bernie together, he has started his own formula one team that had a (lucky) podium in its first season,and went on to win a race. He has been a publicity figure for multinational companies. He has kept his nose clean (unlike moseley) and he is well respected within the racing world (unlike moseley).
Kind of gone off on a tangent there but it gets me angry that there is someone who is in a position to change the sport for the better but seems to have no intention of doing so!
stifler said:
Scuffers said:
FFS can't somebody just have a word in his ear? (or park a horses head in his bed?)
made me chuckle. Seriously though, the guy is incompetant. How he managed to win the vote of confidence after naZi? gate is beyond me. Ari vatenan gets my vote out of the people that are currently being suggested.I know that he is outspoken (in a considered, calm manner)n but why do spanky and shorty have such a problem with jackie stewart?
Mosley's vendetta seems easy to explain.
Mosley tried to be a racing driver but failed. Stewart tried to be a racing driver and won three world championships.
Mosley tried to be racing constructor, but his firm eventually atrophied into nothing. Stewart tried to be a racing constructor and eventually sold his team to a multi-national for a huge sum.
Mosley was the son of a pretend aristocrat, but the title went to his half-brother. Stewart was awarded a knighthood for his many personal achievements.
Mosley wanted to go into politics, but the poison of his family name, and his own offensive actions as a young man, made that impossible. Stewart is admired and welcomed the world over.
It's obvious, at least IMO, why a petty, grubby little thug like Mosley hates Jackie Stewart and seizes every opportunity to bring the FIA into disrepute in order to slander the far greater man.
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