Senna's famous Donington win
Senna's famous Donington win
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N24

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1,117 posts

268 months

Saturday 14th February 2009
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Perhaps this is to generate some interest for Donnington, apologies if it's a repost but Senna remains no.1 for me...

"Ayrton Senna produces one of the great Formula One drives to win the 1993 European Grand Prix at Donington Park in tricky conditions. "

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula...


deevlash

10,442 posts

266 months

Saturday 14th February 2009
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I remember watching that live, I was 11 smile

mattikake

5,116 posts

228 months

Saturday 14th February 2009
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I was there! In the infield so I could see from the Crainer curves to Coppice.

He was already passing Schumi, then immediately did Wendlinger. Stormed up to Hill like Hill was driving an F3000 car and went past easily. Next lap he was several seconds ahead of Prost.

All the crowd were looking at each other asking how the hell he just did that.

FourWheelDrift

92,293 posts

313 months

Saturday 14th February 2009
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Yes but only one lap, overtaking everyone in front of him because he guessed the right setup for the conditions, apart from that and the shortcut he took later in the race nothing else happened. If it had been a dry race nothing would have happened at all.

Nicholas Blair

4,111 posts

313 months

Saturday 14th February 2009
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There too, and soaked.

Sat qulaifying was great, super day and crowds not too bad.

Lotus Elan +2

500 posts

294 months

Saturday 14th February 2009
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mattikake said:
I was there! In the infield so I could see from the Crainer curves to Coppice.
I was there too - On the outside of the Craner Curves - bloody marvellous !!
I've still got my Grand Prix jumper (only bought it 'cos I was very very cold !!)
God I wish I was 23 again !!!!!

Clevers

1,171 posts

230 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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A great lap and race by Senna, very memorable. It was a very weak field though with Prost driving only 7/10th's and Damon and the others not really in the same class.

Derek Smith

49,753 posts

277 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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FourWheelDrift said:
Yes but only one lap, overtaking everyone in front of him because he guessed the right setup for the conditions, apart from that and the shortcut he took later in the race nothing else happened. If it had been a dry race nothing would have happened at all.
His first lap at the following GP, Canada, was even more remarkable. You couldn't attribute that to set-up.

Red Firecracker

5,346 posts

256 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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It's a shame Barrichello's race isn't remembered more often when Donington '93 is talked about. An equally impressive achievement in my book considering the car and experience of the driver.

stephen300o

15,464 posts

257 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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I wasn't there, I maybe the only PH who wasn't wink Hopefully i'll get to see an F1 race at donington soon.

mattikake

5,116 posts

228 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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Derek Smith said:
FourWheelDrift said:
Yes but only one lap, overtaking everyone in front of him because he guessed the right setup for the conditions, apart from that and the shortcut he took later in the race nothing else happened. If it had been a dry race nothing would have happened at all.
His first lap at the following GP, Canada, was even more remarkable. You couldn't attribute that to set-up.
For those who haven't see it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN94bem5nT4&fea...

Pure Senna racecraft, often just putting himself into empty tarmac to gain track position advantage. And in the process making Schumi look as average as his car...

Edited by mattikake on Sunday 15th February 12:37

Eric Mc

125,609 posts

294 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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This race crops up many timeson PH because everybody atributes it to being Senna's greatest. The ironic thing is that Senna didsn't look on it as anything special. He felt that he relied too much on the technical gizmos incorporated in the 1993 McLaren and that it wasn't a true reflection on his skill.

I still think his drive in the wet in the low ranking Toleman at Monaco in 1984 and his 1985 win at Estoril are his best drives.

freedman

6,015 posts

236 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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Clevers said:
A great lap and race by Senna, very memorable. It was a very weak field though with Prost driving only 7/10th's and Damon and the others not really in the same class.
In what way was it a weak field?

Prost and Hill (both in vastly superior equipment to Senna)

Herbert
Patrese
Alboreto
Barrichello
Boutsen
Alesi
Berger
Schumacher

All GP winners and more

Plus

Brundle
Warwick
De cesaris
Zanardi
Wendlinger
Alliot
Blundell

No slowpokes there really

Only

Andretti
Katayama
Jarvilehto
Badoer
Suzuki
Comas

Never achieved much in F1 terms

williamp

20,399 posts

302 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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It was a great race for the Brazilian...

...but that Brazilian was Baracello, not Senna

Red Firecracker

5,346 posts

256 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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williamp said:
It was a great race for the Brazilian...

...but that Brazilian was Baracello, not Senna
Aha, someone agrees! smile

stephen300o

15,464 posts

257 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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williamp said:
It was a great race for the Brazilian...

...but that Brazilian was Baracello, not Senna
Are we going to have a long line of blowing away the smokescreen threads?, where the "experts" decide, actually none of these F1 drivers were any good.

freedman

6,015 posts

236 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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Red Firecracker said:
williamp said:
It was a great race for the Brazilian...

...but that Brazilian was Baracello, not Senna
Aha, someone agrees! smile
So Senna didnt have a great race?

FFS...

micky g

1,576 posts

264 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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I was there too, outfield on the Esses. Great day and great drive.

Apart from the amazing first lap, Senna stopped out on slicks in very poor but improving conditions and that was where he gained a lot of his time. Iirc, he lapped everyone bar Hill, (he let him unlap him with a few laps to go).

Senna was certainly the best driver in my lifetime.

350GT

73,668 posts

284 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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That was one of the best races for Hill as well, if I recall.

freedman

6,015 posts

236 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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350GT said:
That was one of the best races for Hill as well, if I recall.
Not really