Poor drivers - in motorsport
Poor drivers - in motorsport
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Jasandjules

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72,596 posts

258 months

Sunday 19th April 2009
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How come there are some drivers who appear to be utterly hopeless (let's say for example in F1 if there was a driver who was dangerous, crashed a lot, didn't score well etc.. and often just fell off the track) yet they keep their seat for years (now I am sure it is just a co-incidence that a driver may just be the same nationality as either the team or the engine), yet other drivers who are that bit better, but are still poor, are kicked out after a few races...

So, why are some p**s poor drivers kept on whilst others evicted....

TheGhettoPitstop

4 posts

246 months

Sunday 19th April 2009
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money

Lord Croker

7,416 posts

218 months

Sunday 19th April 2009
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Marketability (R Schumacher for example)

Development skill

The ability to bring in sponsorship

Jasandjules

Original Poster:

72,596 posts

258 months

Sunday 19th April 2009
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TheGhettoPitstop said:
money
Are you saying the drivers pay loads of cash to drive ?


anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 19th April 2009
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Jasandjules said:
TheGhettoPitstop said:
money
Are you saying the drivers pay loads of cash to drive ?
Some bring in big sponsorship deals due to their nationality.

There have been teems in the past with paying No.2 drivers.

Edited by el stovey on Sunday 19th April 09:39

navier_stokes

948 posts

228 months

Sunday 19th April 2009
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Jasandjules said:
TheGhettoPitstop said:
money
Are you saying the drivers pay loads of cash to drive ?
All but the very top level of motorsport, you have to pay to drive...

stifler

37,069 posts

217 months

Sunday 19th April 2009
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el stovey said:
Jasandjules said:
TheGhettoPitstop said:
money
Are you saying the drivers pay loads of cash to drive ?
Some bring in big sponsorship deals due to their nationality.

There have been teems in the past with paying No.2 drivers.

Edited by el stovey on Sunday 19th April 09:39
Rumour has it that Piquet is paying this year.

The Moose

23,677 posts

238 months

Sunday 19th April 2009
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Doesn't Nakajima (sp?!) pay?? Or did pay or his dad sponsored the team or something??

stifler

37,069 posts

217 months

Sunday 19th April 2009
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The Moose said:
Doesn't Nakajima (sp?!) pay?? Or did pay or his dad sponsored the team or something??
Toyota engines.

Jasandjules

Original Poster:

72,596 posts

258 months

Sunday 19th April 2009
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The Moose said:
Doesn't Nakajima (sp?!) pay?? Or did pay or his dad sponsored the team or something??
He MAY have been the reason for this thread.....

Given the cost of writing off a car due to a poor drive and smashing it off the wall, how much does it cost to pay for a drive in an F1 machine?

The Moose

23,677 posts

238 months

Sunday 19th April 2009
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Jasandjules said:
The Moose said:
Doesn't Nakajima (sp?!) pay?? Or did pay or his dad sponsored the team or something??
He MAY have been the reason for this thread.....

Given the cost of writing off a car due to a poor drive and smashing it off the wall, how much does it cost to pay for a drive in an F1 machine?
HAHA lol biggrin

Well the bigger teams were (a year or two now) spending something around 250 mil so a large portion of that I would assume?!?

If they do go down this 30 mil budget route it is going to introduce a huge number of other teams - 30 mil is so much more achievable than 250 mil!! My only concern is that if you can advertise on an entire car (i.e. by running a team) for 30 mil, then why would you ever be a main sponsor for another team (e.g. Marlboro etc)? I think it may well de-value the sport.

I recon motorsport needs a series that is completely unrestricted (other than safety and width/height/length constrains so you cant build a car the width of the track!!). Would be really quite interesting!!

Cheers

The Moose

The Moose

23,677 posts

238 months

Sunday 19th April 2009
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Thinking about it is said driver was, shall we say, sub-optimal and continued to take himself/others out I can't see him hanging around in F1 for long??

Jasandjules

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72,596 posts

258 months

Sunday 19th April 2009
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But that's exactly what I don't get, certain drivers are being talked about in terms of losing their seat due to poor driving whilst others appear to continue to blunder along taking other drivers off, having little/no road awareness and driving like Doris in a Nissan Micra, yet no question of the safety of their seat.....

Mr_Thyroid

1,995 posts

256 months

Sunday 19th April 2009
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I think the overall quality of drivers in F1 is stronger than it's ever been. With a reletively small number of team and so many works teams there are less 'paying' drivers than there used to be.

Don't forget it was wet today and the current world champion spun 4 times.

The Moose

23,677 posts

238 months

Sunday 19th April 2009
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Jasandjules said:
But that's exactly what I don't get, certain drivers are being talked about in terms of losing their seat due to poor driving whilst others appear to continue to blunder along taking other drivers off, having little/no road awareness and driving like Doris in a Nissan Micra, yet no question of the safety of their seat.....
Isn't that the team giving the driver the bird where the driver does not have a paid position, whereas a paid position is more down to the funding from the driver??

Nobody You Know

8,422 posts

222 months

Sunday 19th April 2009
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Money money and more money. As previously mentioned in all but the very highest level drivers have to pay to drive or bring with them gaurunteed sponsorship. Also with drivers like Nakajima Toyota will no doubt give Williams a 'favourable' deal if they have a Japanese driver.

Also there are many older but 'not that quick' drivers who are very good at car set-up and development who add more to the team in overall pace and driveability of the car than there own results.