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bobthemonkey

Original Poster:

4,206 posts

245 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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Right; FOTA already have a list in a little black notebook according to David Croft, but lets try to put together our own.

Basic criteria
A)Prince Albert has already said that Monaco will be available to Ferrari for 2010
B)The circuit must not be bound to FIA for 2010
C)Fallings out with Max or Bernie are preferable
D)Must have recently hosted a proper race to ensure the facilities are in place for 2010
E)The current MotoGp commercial rights holder may well run the series, so MotoGP tracks are likely venues.

To get started
1)Monaco
2)Silverstone

Kinky

39,944 posts

298 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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Spa would have to be on that list fingers crossed

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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The circuits don't have to be none F1 event holders IMHO, in Europe at least as that would cause legal issues with restriction of trade.

I'd expect these to be on the cards
Silverstone
Monaco
Canada
Indy
Spa
Magny Cours
Imola
Monza
China
Australia
Turkey
Barcelona
Hungary
Brazil
Hokenheim
Nurburgring
Suzuka

Mark-C

7,611 posts

234 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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MOntreal
Indianpolis
Austria A1-Ring
Hockenheim
A1-Ring
Estoril

Actually ... just follow MotoGP .... but avoid the clashes with FIA ...
Jerez
Mugello
Laguna Seca (I'd book a seat near the corkscrew right now!)
Assen
Misano
Brno
Motegi

etc


anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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I don't think there is a restriction of trade, (Marks and Spencer sign sole trade agreements with suppliers) companies are free to negotiate terms of trade, between themselves and and these can be exclusive, in fact if you supply a FOTA member then as I understand it you can not supply to another, so they will have a major problem claiming that excusive agreemnts are legal in their supply chain but not in the curcuits. In fact I thought that it was a condition of holding an FI that the curcuit would only host FIA FIM sactioned events.

flat-planedCrank

3,697 posts

232 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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Potrero de los Funes Circuit (Argentina) ?

Looked amazing for the GT racing, would be great to see some high down-force single-seaters on the circuit.



Perhaps Pau instead of Monaco ? smile



Mount Panorama (Australia)? thumbup

Edited by flat-planedCrank on Friday 19th June 02:38

shalmaneser

6,431 posts

224 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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Mark-C said:
MOntreal
Indianpolis
Austria A1-Ring
Hockenheim
A1-Ring
Estoril

Actually ... just follow MotoGP .... but avoid the clashes with FIA ...
Jerez
Mugello
Laguna Seca (I'd book a seat near the corkscrew right now!)
Assen
Misano
Brno
Motegi
Please please please please....

Oh, and Spa HAS to be on the list cloud9

Airbag

3,466 posts

225 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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Many of the above mentioned, but I'd love to see a Canadian GP at any of Montreal, Mosport or a Toronto street circuit.

Any will do, really. Mosport's pits would need a bit of work, but would be fun.

I just hope they come up to the great white north!

Mark2008

134 posts

224 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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I'd love to see them race Macau or perhaps even a new London GP :-)

Jungles

3,587 posts

250 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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flat-planedCrank said:
It would be spectacular, but most unlikely. The track already hosts a 1000km race, and is only a temporary street circuit. Although the local folk are quite good about motorsport, I doubt they'd be too impressed with the amount of disruption that two large motorsport events would cause them.

Even more to the point, the track is very bumpy and the lack of run-off and visibility will be a serious safety issue.

Phillip Island or Eastern Creek are much more likely venues. Phillip Island already hosts the MotoGP, it's beautiful track with great facilities.

Other tracks I'd like to see:

Zandvoort (Netherlands) - classic track, lots of character.
Road America (USA) - I would have said Watkins Glen, but Road America has much better facilities.
Imola (Italy) - recently renovated facilities, experienced in hosting F1.
Mont Tremblant (Canada) - nice "old school" track, but facilities and access could be a problem.
EuroSpeedway Lausitz GP (Germany) - modern and safe.
Fuji Speedway (Japan) - recent F1 host, reasonably good racing.

llewop

3,958 posts

240 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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Mark2008 said:
I'd love to see them race Macau or perhaps even a new London GP :-)
neither realistic - if Bernie can't sort out F1 in London, no one can

and F1 round Macau??? it is mad enough with Touring Cars!

Silverstone has to be the British GP - but wouldn't say no to another!

thunderbelmont

2,982 posts

253 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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IF the FOTA series goes ahead, how about this lot:

UK - Silverstone
France - Mangey Course
Germany - Nordschlieffe!!!! - no really!
Belgium - Zolder (Spa is under contract to the Bolt!)
Italy - Imola (Monza is under contract to the Bolt!)
Sweden - Andersthorpe
Holland - Assen (couldn't do Zandvoort due to the noise restrictions)
Australia - Adelaide
New Zealand - Taupo
USA East - Watkins Glen
USA West - Longbeach
USA for the hell of it - Indy
Canada - Montreal
South Africa - Kyalami
Brazil - Rio
Mexico - Mexico City

That'll do.


The Hypno-Toad

13,305 posts

234 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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If they go to Laguna, I will sell everything I own for a seat at the corkscrew!

lescombes

968 posts

239 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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don't forget Le Mans (Bugatti Circuit) for France....good location to get too

uriel

3,244 posts

280 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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Hasn't Portimão in Portugal just been kitted out to F1 spec? It's been awesome for the superbikes.

Mark-C

7,611 posts

234 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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lescombes said:
don't forget Le Mans (Bugatti Circuit) for France....good location to get too
Absolutely - had it in my list and somehow edited it out!

belleair302

7,008 posts

236 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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I can see a race back in Portugal, Canada, USA should get two races, germany, Italy, France, Spain, UK, South Africa, Australia, Germany, Monaco, and before too long the FIA will be back because their series will fail.

Bernie makes money off of trackside advertising, Paddock Club hospitality (down 60% at some tracks in 2009), and TV revenue. Advertisers won't pay if the top teams don't race, TV companies will have a break clause if sensible and corporate hospitality will go where the best teams are racing.

Bernie's partners at CVC and their investors must be a little worried with what they are reading today in the media.


MartG

22,791 posts

233 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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Brands Hatch ?

freedman

6,015 posts

236 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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MartG said:
Brands Hatch ?
At last

No idea why anyone would want the race at Silverstone instead

SirTainly

904 posts

240 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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BH - great circuit but too small for modern F1.