leob to get a spin in the torro rosso this year?

[Castrolcraig]

http://www.crash.net/f1/news/149632/1/loeb_pitches...

hmmm, he went well in testing, so who knows.

[Jungles]

Doubt it.

1. Lack of experience in circuit racing (yes, he did Le Mans a few times, but that's no comparison to doing a proper season in F3 or GP2).

2. Lack of experience in F1.

3. Not eligible for a FIA Superlicense, even using the exception clause.

4. Current WRC obligations.

[RJB_666]

I read somewhere that he'd been doing a lot of simulation running as well. He only doubted his physical condition at the moment. I just can't see the reserve driver Algersuave (Definate SP) being good enough, he has very little experience i'm sure he's come from Spanish F3. I wonder when the Senna rumours begin again.

[FourWheelDrift]

At least they won't get confused with names, that's Vettel, Bourdais, Buemi and now Loeb they will be calling Sebastien.

Can't see it happening unless Alguersuari is woefully off the pace or there is a sponsor tie-in with a race later in the year.

[acf8181]

Well, he can't do any worse than Bourdais is managing really!

[FourWheelDrift]

RJB_666 said:

I just can't see the reserve driver Algersuave (Definate SP) being good enough, he has very little experience i'm sure he's come from Spanish F3.

He's the current (2008) British F3 champion.

[EDLT]

National F3 > F1 is a bit of a step up isn't it?

[FourWheelDrift]

Senna did it, so did Brundle, Vettel, Button and others.

[Save Ferris]

FourWheelDrift said:

Senna did it, so did Brundle, Vettel, Button and others.

Hakkinen aswell, and Raikkonen straight from Formula Renault.

[RJB_666]

FourWheelDrift said:

RJB_666 said:

I just can't see the reserve driver Algersuave (Definate SP) being good enough, he has very little experience i'm sure he's come from Spanish F3.

He's the current (2008) British F3 champion.

Bugger i was close

[plg101]

Jungles said:

Doubt it.

1. Lack of experience in circuit racing (yes, he did Le Mans a few times, but that's no comparison to doing a proper season in F3 or GP2).

2. Lack of experience in F1.

3. Not eligible for a FIA Superlicense, even using the exception clause.

4. Current WRC obligations.

"Under exceptional circumstances Appendix L also allows the FIA to award a Super Licence to a driver who does not meet the normal criteria if a vote reveals unanimous agreement by the members, and provided that the driver has completed 300 kilometres of testing at racing speeds in a current car"

Can't see the FIA saying no subject to the testing - question is, how do you do 300km of testing? Can the FIA allow a day of testing for a new driver?

[Jungles]

plg101 said:

Jungles said:

Doubt it.

1. Lack of experience in circuit racing (yes, he did Le Mans a few times, but that's no comparison to doing a proper season in F3 or GP2).

2. Lack of experience in F1.

3. Not eligible for a FIA Superlicense, even using the exception clause.

4. Current WRC obligations.

"Under exceptional circumstances Appendix L also allows the FIA to award a Super Licence to a driver who does not meet the normal criteria if a vote reveals unanimous agreement by the members, and provided that the driver has completed 300 kilometres of testing at racing speeds in a current car"

Can't see the FIA saying no subject to the testing - question is, how do you do 300km of testing? Can the FIA allow a day of testing for a new driver?

It's not just testing. The driver must also have a record of single-seater results which are deemed sufficient.

Full text:

be judged by the FIA to have consistently demonstrated outstanding ability in single-seater formula cars, but with no opportunity to qualify under any of c) to e) above. In this case the F1 team concerned must show that the applicant has driven at least 300 km in a current Formula One car consistently at racing speeds, over a maximum period of 2 days, completed not more than 90 days prior to the application and certified by the ASN of the country in which the test took place.

Edited by Jungles on Saturday 11th July 23:49

[plg101]

Sorry - you are quite right.

The teams must sound out the FIA on this though - Ferrari tested Rossi so much that they must have had a mechanism in mind to get him the right license...

Is there (?) a nice general get out clause of a regulation that says "by unanimous agreement of the council and subject to a suitable closed test and analysis by panel of FIA observers..."?