TUSCAN ON FLEEBAY
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Ex Ian Flux Tuscan on ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am...
We looked at this one and thought of the following costs which put the car out of the equation!
Rebuilt AJP including sundries and fitting £10,000.00
Exhaust system say £500.00
Re-wire £800.00
ECU £250
Brakes £2000.00
Dampers £1500.00
Seat £200.00
Harnesses £100.00
Re-paint and body work say £1200.00
Powder coat chassis £1000.00 (stored outside in the rain for 12 years could be knackered)
Rose joints say £1500.00
Recovery £200.00
Other unforseen works say £2000.00
Total potential costs excluding purchase costs £21,250.00
Considering the above costs the car aint worth a carrot.
Rebuilt AJP including sundries and fitting £10,000.00
Exhaust system say £500.00
Re-wire £800.00
ECU £250
Brakes £2000.00
Dampers £1500.00
Seat £200.00
Harnesses £100.00
Re-paint and body work say £1200.00
Powder coat chassis £1000.00 (stored outside in the rain for 12 years could be knackered)
Rose joints say £1500.00
Recovery £200.00
Other unforseen works say £2000.00
Total potential costs excluding purchase costs £21,250.00
Considering the above costs the car aint worth a carrot.
shapeshifter said:
We looked at this one and thought of the following costs which put the car out of the equation!
Rebuilt AJP including sundries and fitting £10,000.00
Exhaust system say £500.00
Re-wire £800.00
ECU £250
Brakes £2000.00
Dampers £1500.00
Seat £200.00
Harnesses £100.00
Re-paint and body work say £1200.00
Powder coat chassis £1000.00 (stored outside in the rain for 12 years could be knackered)
Rose joints say £1500.00
Recovery £200.00
Other unforseen works say £2000.00
Total potential costs excluding purchase costs £21,250.00
Considering the above costs the car aint worth a carrot.
dreamers thoughts as followsRebuilt AJP including sundries and fitting £10,000.00
Exhaust system say £500.00
Re-wire £800.00
ECU £250
Brakes £2000.00
Dampers £1500.00
Seat £200.00
Harnesses £100.00
Re-paint and body work say £1200.00
Powder coat chassis £1000.00 (stored outside in the rain for 12 years could be knackered)
Rose joints say £1500.00
Recovery £200.00
Other unforseen works say £2000.00
Total potential costs excluding purchase costs £21,250.00
Considering the above costs the car aint worth a carrot.
tweaked rover v8 = £5000
£300 to sort the brakes
quick rub down on the chassis
paint looks fine as it is
them tyres look fine
should be good to go in a few weeks
see you on the grid!!
think i'll stick to the taz for now!
IF your looking to build a car from scratch its worth looking at, as its all the little bits that add up... starting with a bare chassis to get to rolling chassis with new suspension, uprights, dampers, brakes, diff, steering column etc your looking at circa 15k 
and complete running cars have gone for that..
at least that tuscan has a body and a cage as well, plus bits like pedal box, maybe fuel tank, sump tanks etc...
Its always going to be cheaper to start with something as complete as possible...
I've taken the route to build from scratch,as I wanted to build it exactly to my spec.. bloody expensive though... having said that you should see the sexy gearbox thats now sat on the bench... dont think i'll put it in a car just on the wall in the lounge
and complete running cars have gone for that..at least that tuscan has a body and a cage as well, plus bits like pedal box, maybe fuel tank, sump tanks etc...
Its always going to be cheaper to start with something as complete as possible...
I've taken the route to build from scratch,as I wanted to build it exactly to my spec.. bloody expensive though... having said that you should see the sexy gearbox thats now sat on the bench... dont think i'll put it in a car just on the wall in the lounge
Edited by Graham on Saturday 18th July 17:47
Graham said:
IF your looking to build a car from scratch its worth looking at, as its all the little bits that add up... starting with a bare chassis to get to rolling chassis with new suspension, uprights, dampers, brakes, diff, steering column etc your looking at circa 15k and complete running cars have gone for that..
at least that tuscan has a body and a cage as well, plus bits like pedal box, maybe fuel tank, sump tanks etc...
Its always going to be cheaper to start with something as complete as possible...
I've taken the route to build from scratch,as I wanted to build it exactly to my spec.. bloody expensive though... having said that you should see the sexy gearbox thats now sat on the bench... dont think i'll put it in a car just on the wall in the lounge
Both cliff and myself £30K plus and i have not finished yet!!!!!!!!!!!! induction,exhaust,and cams are still needed to get circa 380-400 BHP for class A and complete running cars have gone for that..at least that tuscan has a body and a cage as well, plus bits like pedal box, maybe fuel tank, sump tanks etc...
Its always going to be cheaper to start with something as complete as possible...
I've taken the route to build from scratch,as I wanted to build it exactly to my spec.. bloody expensive though... having said that you should see the sexy gearbox thats now sat on the bench... dont think i'll put it in a car just on the wall in the lounge
If your racing for fun and to gain experience then this has got to be a good start. No shocks, one thing your going to need. But thats good as you can get some the right length and correct the flaws in damper angles. Chuck it together with a 4.2 cerb wet sump and have some fun. If your starting out its got to be worth 4-5 to you.
I can here you saying discs,rose joints. The gold spec rose joints are almost indestuctible. They used to weather discs in the rain then clean them.
Someone could be racing for a lot less than £10k
If your going to chuck a Rover in it you will have to cut and weld the chassis as this is an AJP chassis car from the photos.
If I had some spare cash I would buy it and have it for spares.
David
Trevor the TVR Rallying
I can here you saying discs,rose joints. The gold spec rose joints are almost indestuctible. They used to weather discs in the rain then clean them.
Someone could be racing for a lot less than £10k
If your going to chuck a Rover in it you will have to cut and weld the chassis as this is an AJP chassis car from the photos.
If I had some spare cash I would buy it and have it for spares.
David
Trevor the TVR Rallying
Doubtless the pile of bits has intrinsic value but before rushing headlong into a bottomless pit of doom consider...
1. It has been stored out of use in the open for 10 years
2. It was owned by a tuscan challenge racer
point 1 means that all bushes, shocks, rose joints consumables etc etc will be scrap or at the very least require a full re-build
Point 2 means that (tuscan racers being what they are) anything usefull will have been robbed long ago and a base shell with junk left
The car could be re-built. Anything can be re-built but the reality is that you can buy a Tuscan with an engine and lots of good parts for a lot less than this would cost to build back up properly.
Yes a cobbled together shed on a shoestring is possible but why would you.
also Is the chassis straight?
as for £10k, don't think so.
My cobbled together 60's racer has eaten the best part of £25k with me doing most of the work. Parts all soon mount up cost wise.
N.
1. It has been stored out of use in the open for 10 years
2. It was owned by a tuscan challenge racer
point 1 means that all bushes, shocks, rose joints consumables etc etc will be scrap or at the very least require a full re-build
Point 2 means that (tuscan racers being what they are) anything usefull will have been robbed long ago and a base shell with junk left
The car could be re-built. Anything can be re-built but the reality is that you can buy a Tuscan with an engine and lots of good parts for a lot less than this would cost to build back up properly.
Yes a cobbled together shed on a shoestring is possible but why would you.
also Is the chassis straight?
as for £10k, don't think so.
My cobbled together 60's racer has eaten the best part of £25k with me doing most of the work. Parts all soon mount up cost wise.
N.
Edited by heightswitch on Sunday 19th July 11:09
heightswitch said:
My cobbled together 60's racer has eaten the best part of £25k with me doing most of the work... and its still not finished
EFA
N.
Joking aside, EFA
N.
If I'd known what it would cost to get my M to what it will be when it comes back from its current series of work, I sould have walked away from it. I work away from home so much of the work has been by others and the costs for that weigh heavy.
All that aside, cos its history. Buying the car has scratched an itch, I now have a very pretty competitive little car that I can race in any number of series AND it's let me do what I should have done 20 years ago.
If I were faced with the same circumstances now, I'd probably do the same again such is the fun I've had in only a short time!!
There are only very few Tuscans around. To get hold of most of one at less than 5K must be tempting to someone looking at buying a car, especially if they have time and ability on their side.
Money wise it may well end up costing the wrong side of 30K, but you will know its a sorted car with nothing required. Buying an end of season car for 20K will leave you in much the same boat financially when its properly freshened.
I just hope its ends up back on track and not being MOT'd every year to do 500 miles impressing passengers.
Edited by TVR_owner on Sunday 19th July 11:22
Edited by TVR_owner on Sunday 19th July 11:24
I'd say that car is worth £2-3k as spares for someone with an existing car, assuming that the chassis is straight and the bodywork is reasonable.
If someone was looking to rebuild it into a workable car then it would clearly be cheaper to start with a £20k complete car with all the bits already there. Equally, if someone doesn't have £20k but they do have time on their side and £5-6k a year (or a stash of existing spares), I can see why it might make sense at £3k as a starting point to having a working car in 4-5 years time, having got some pleasure out of rebuilding it.
Again, it all depends if the chassis is straight
If someone was looking to rebuild it into a workable car then it would clearly be cheaper to start with a £20k complete car with all the bits already there. Equally, if someone doesn't have £20k but they do have time on their side and £5-6k a year (or a stash of existing spares), I can see why it might make sense at £3k as a starting point to having a working car in 4-5 years time, having got some pleasure out of rebuilding it.
Again, it all depends if the chassis is straight
bigrumbly said:
If your going to chuck a Rover in it you will have to cut and weld the chassis as this is an AJP chassis car from the photos.
no need to cut and weld the chassis for an Rv8. My chassis will take either..I cant quite make out it thats got the rv8 mounts on the downtube, so if not you might need to weld some mounts on, but that and modding the removable gearbox xmember is about all you need to do. pre serp is easier to fit than serp.
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