Track Invasion
Track Invasion
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elster

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17,517 posts

239 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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After seeing a bit of a track invasion at Donnington after the MotoGP it got me wondering.

What is to stop these happening? Do the tracks get penalised, or sternly told off, for these?

Will there be one at Silverstone as it is the last race next year?


freedman

6,015 posts

236 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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Happened at Silverstone before, 92 in particular springs to mind

FourWheelDrift

92,287 posts

313 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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elster said:
Will there be one at Silverstone as it is the last race next year?
If you intend to be going then you missed it. If Donington is completed this year was Silverstone's last.

And Dorna/FIM aren't so anal as the FIA when it comes to track invasions at MotoGP and WSBK meets.

daver777

245 posts

243 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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problem with the invasion at donington, was there were 2 more races to run - lots of gravel on the circuit. marshalls were trying to keep people on the grass, particularly near the corners and braking areas, but no luck...
was watching from an upstairs box at redgate, as people were stamping the gravel from the trap out of their shoes right on the turn in to redgate corner.
felt sorry for the guys on track straight after that!

Quick silver

1,387 posts

228 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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FourWheelDrift said:
elster said:
Will there be one at Silverstone as it is the last race next year?
If you intend to be going then you missed it. If Donington is completed this year was Silverstone's last.

And Dorna/FIM aren't so anal as the FIA when it comes to track invasions at MotoGP and WSBK meets.
In recent years Donington has been fined heavily by the FIM, but who can really blame the fans on this occasion with MotoGP moving all the way back down South to Silverstone next year?

I've been to almost every MotoGP/500GP since they first started visiting Donington, along with WSB's & until recent years, have found International M/C racing be very good value for money in comparison to F1.


Edited by Quick silver on Monday 27th July 12:41

elster

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17,517 posts

239 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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FourWheelDrift said:
elster said:
Will there be one at Silverstone as it is the last race next year?
If you intend to be going then you missed it. If Donington is completed this year was Silverstone's last.

And Dorna/FIM aren't so anal as the FIA when it comes to track invasions at MotoGP and WSBK meets.
Come off it.

Silverstone next year, ever the optimist I am.

I thought the FIA were still involved somewhere within MotoGP, just not the dictatorship.


elster

Original Poster:

17,517 posts

239 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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Quick silver said:
FourWheelDrift said:
elster said:
Will there be one at Silverstone as it is the last race next year?
If you intend to be going then you missed it. If Donington is completed this year was Silverstone's last.

And Dorna/FIM aren't so anal as the FIA when it comes to track invasions at MotoGP and WSBK meets.
In recent years Donington has been fined heavily by the FIM, but who can really blame the fans on this occasion with MotoGP moving all the way back down South to Silverstone next year?

I've been to almost every MotoGP/500GP since they first started visiting Donington, along with WSB's & until recent years, have found International M/C racing be very good value for money in comparison to F1.


Edited by Quick silver on Monday 27th July 12:41
Is that what is involved a heavy fine?

Altrezia

8,741 posts

240 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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Doesnt happen in F1 as the pretty-boy-drivers would have to get near the fans.. hehe

At silverstone the big tv screens keep reminding the crowd that 'track invasions are illegal' and what-not. No fun

elster

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17,517 posts

239 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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Altrezia said:
Doesnt happen in F1 as the pretty-boy-drivers would have to get near the fans.. hehe

At silverstone the big tv screens keep reminding the crowd that 'track invasions are illegal' and what-not. No fun
I am also repeatedly told speeding kills. However after several attempts I am still alive and well.

stew-S160

8,020 posts

267 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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happens at Monza every year. as well as many tracks.

LongQ

13,864 posts

262 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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As far as I can see the plan for the 'new Donington' has FIA safety fence all around the edges. Pop a bit of razor wire on top and that should see the end of unplanned invasions. I guess it's one of the factors you have to live with to attract 90,000 spectators rather than the normal 90.

As for gravel on the track for subsequent races (presumably no longer start time critical for TV purposes?) whilst I agree that is not a good result, why the problem? Shortage of marshalls? Shortage of brooms? Not enough track cleaning vehicles?

sirtyro

1,824 posts

227 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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They do it at Le Mans every year. Last year (2008) we ran onto the track and were right under the podium with the Aston Martin boys! Was great fun. Like has been said above at silverstone they say its illegal on all the big screens about 15 mins before the end of the race.

Allyc85

7,225 posts

215 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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If they want to stop the track invasion at Donington they need to fill in the gaps at the bottom of the fences as its so easy to crawl underneath, especially once the marshalls have moved from their posts. I got on track yesterday and loved it tbh, even though I knew it was wrong and a massive pain in the arse for the organisers *insert embarrased smiley here* I got some great pictures of the riders on the slow down lap and the noise right next to Dovisioso's Honda and Cannipas Ducati was unreal biggrinbiggrin

Unfortunately there were fans that took it too far. One tried running into the pitlane and got slammed against the fence by security and I saw another fan fighting with a member of the suzuki team on the pitwall frown Theres no need for behaviour like that, I was just happy to be able to stand infront of the podium and applaud a rider for a brilliant first win smile

scoobydude

750 posts

208 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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Some circuits ( Silverstone included ) operate trespass bylaws. If you invade the track you get nicked for trespass and get a criminal record for your efforts.

Firefox1

140 posts

229 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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It won't happen at Silverstone, the gates in the debris fence will be locked and they can only be opened from trackside.