Piquet Jr - just keeps digging that hole (out of F1)!
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He might partly have a point but FFS, this ain't going to help and at the end of the day he just was not Fast enough, so Please just P*ss of and be a Playboy in Brazil 
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77638
By Jonathan Noble and Edd Straw Thursday, August 13th 2009, 09:51 GMT
Nelson Piquet has renewed his attack on his former boss Flavio Briatore - claiming the Renault chief is 'ignorant' about Formula 1.
Having already labelled Briatore as his 'executioner' in an outspoken statement issued in the wake of him being dropped by the team, Piquet has again aimed his anger at the flamboyant Italian in a controversial interview with this week's AUTOSPORT.
"He is ignorant about Formula 1," said Piquet. "Maybe because of all the things that didn't favour me put me so low that he just didn't care. He didn't understand what is going on with the team.
"If you listen to the pit-wall radio, it's like a joke. He hasn't got a clue what is happening in the race. Sometimes he asks if a driver has slick or wet tyres when it is obvious.
"Everyone knows that his ego is bigger than anything else. He likes to show off. You can be a very good businessman and whatever, but the F1 team itself can do very well without him. When I first started he would attend all of the meetings and briefings, but taking away the business side, he makes comments that don't make any sense.
"The only good thing the team takes out of him is his good relationship with Bernie and the FIA. Other than that, he doesn't know what is going on. It's like listening to something my sister would say about the car. Pat Symonds is the guy who really understands what is going on with the team."
Briatore has declined to comment about Piquet's statements.
Piquet says he has no qualms about having gone on the attack in his statement and the AUTOSPORT interview after his dismissal from Renault.
"We're free to say whatever we feel like and I don't see why more drivers don't do that," he said. "It was important for everyone to know what has been going on and not to hide like a lot of other drivers tend to do because they are scared that it could put their career in danger."
The full interview with Piquet, which includes his thoughts on Fernando Alonso, team equality, his contract and his future, is in this week's AUTOSPORT magazine.
!!http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77638
By Jonathan Noble and Edd Straw Thursday, August 13th 2009, 09:51 GMT
Nelson Piquet has renewed his attack on his former boss Flavio Briatore - claiming the Renault chief is 'ignorant' about Formula 1.
Having already labelled Briatore as his 'executioner' in an outspoken statement issued in the wake of him being dropped by the team, Piquet has again aimed his anger at the flamboyant Italian in a controversial interview with this week's AUTOSPORT.
"He is ignorant about Formula 1," said Piquet. "Maybe because of all the things that didn't favour me put me so low that he just didn't care. He didn't understand what is going on with the team.
"If you listen to the pit-wall radio, it's like a joke. He hasn't got a clue what is happening in the race. Sometimes he asks if a driver has slick or wet tyres when it is obvious.
"Everyone knows that his ego is bigger than anything else. He likes to show off. You can be a very good businessman and whatever, but the F1 team itself can do very well without him. When I first started he would attend all of the meetings and briefings, but taking away the business side, he makes comments that don't make any sense.
"The only good thing the team takes out of him is his good relationship with Bernie and the FIA. Other than that, he doesn't know what is going on. It's like listening to something my sister would say about the car. Pat Symonds is the guy who really understands what is going on with the team."
Briatore has declined to comment about Piquet's statements.
Piquet says he has no qualms about having gone on the attack in his statement and the AUTOSPORT interview after his dismissal from Renault.
"We're free to say whatever we feel like and I don't see why more drivers don't do that," he said. "It was important for everyone to know what has been going on and not to hide like a lot of other drivers tend to do because they are scared that it could put their career in danger."
The full interview with Piquet, which includes his thoughts on Fernando Alonso, team equality, his contract and his future, is in this week's AUTOSPORT magazine.
Well considering his manager has done a pretty piss-poor job, I think he's entitled to have a bit of a vent. If ever there was a conflict of interest it's s team boss who's also the driver's manager - he can't serve both, so with Flav it's the driver that gets shafted every time.
Indidentally, a lot of Piquet's comments remind me of comments made in Steve Matchet's books about his days at Benetton back in the 90s and how Flac was, shall we say, somewhat clueless about what went on behind his back.
Nick M said:
Well considering his manager has done a pretty piss-poor job, I think he's entitled to have a bit of a vent. If ever there was a conflict of interest it's s team boss who's also the driver's manager - he can't serve both, so with Flav it's the driver that gets shafted every time.
Indidentally, a lot of Piquet's comments remind me of comments made in Steve Matchet's books about his days at Benetton back in the 90s and how Flac was, shall we say, somewhat clueless about what went on behind his back.
I overheard this chap in the Dog and Duck Enstone saying that Flav is pretty clueless, but he is very good at placing the right people in the right places in the team. Another chap told me that the only reason Piquet held onto that drive for so long was 'cos Flav was taking his piece of the action....I've no idea how true any of those statements was of course.Indidentally, a lot of Piquet's comments remind me of comments made in Steve Matchet's books about his days at Benetton back in the 90s and how Flac was, shall we say, somewhat clueless about what went on behind his back.
I like this line the best:
"If you listen to the pit-wall radio, it's like a joke. He hasn't got a clue what is happening in the race. Sometimes he asks if a driver has slick or wet tyres when it is obvious."
Imagining Flavs radio traffic on that one:
FB - "Look at da slow pace of Jr, iz ee on da wet tyres on da dry track Pat?"
Pat - "No Flav he is on the slicks"
FB - "Mamma Mia......"
"If you listen to the pit-wall radio, it's like a joke. He hasn't got a clue what is happening in the race. Sometimes he asks if a driver has slick or wet tyres when it is obvious."
Imagining Flavs radio traffic on that one:
FB - "Look at da slow pace of Jr, iz ee on da wet tyres on da dry track Pat?"
Pat - "No Flav he is on the slicks"
FB - "Mamma Mia......"
On one hand you have to respect the fact that Briatore is a supremely successful man and when you're a bit nearer minnow status in the sport then you're probably not doing your long term career prospects a whole lot of good. Especially if you're track record in F1 is shakey at best.
However, to give the man his dues, if PH is anything to go by, Piquet Jr has taken some serious flack since his appearance in F1. Some of it justified but not all so I think it's only fair he defend himself.
And to be honest it's quite refeshing to hear a driver coming out all guns blazing rather than towing the 'company line'.
It's down to the other team bosses in the sport to decide if Piquet has any credit in what he's saying or if his driving ability isn't good enough to warrant taking him on.
However, to give the man his dues, if PH is anything to go by, Piquet Jr has taken some serious flack since his appearance in F1. Some of it justified but not all so I think it's only fair he defend himself.
And to be honest it's quite refeshing to hear a driver coming out all guns blazing rather than towing the 'company line'.
It's down to the other team bosses in the sport to decide if Piquet has any credit in what he's saying or if his driving ability isn't good enough to warrant taking him on.
skinny said:
anyone else noticed flav wearing an increasingly confused expression on his face the last few years
Noticeably more confused than already confused? No!Everyone knows Flabio has a peculiar line in incomprehensible blabbering and missing the point. He's like Eric Cantona at his worst, at his best.
I sympathise with Jr TBH, but given it's far from the first time that Flab's screwed over his own drivers or what appears to be looking after his interests first and the team's second, what was he doing appointing such a bloke as his manager? Or was that a condition of getting the drive?
Flav's job isn't to know anything about the race weekend on track per se, his job is to keep the Renault board happy and make sure the team is resourced enough both financially and technically to do the job. He has been and is a success in that respect, some would say it's amazing he is managing to keep Renault happy in these times of financial tight belts with manufacturers pulling the plug.
If Piquet jnr doesn't understand the role Flav has, and it appears he doesn't, then he needs some advice to be quiet if he ever wants to get a decent drive again.
If Piquet jnr doesn't understand the role Flav has, and it appears he doesn't, then he needs some advice to be quiet if he ever wants to get a decent drive again.
Not a great fan of the old lothario meself, he is the living walking example of what motivates a "certain" type of gal though.
One thing I did like though was his introductory speech in the factory to the assembled minions which was quoted at the time in Autosport/F1 Racing on his return to F1 as top dog in Renault.
" Hey, I ama Flavio. . . in thisa sport there are winnas anda w@nkers. . . and I ama no a w@nker "
Classic, and I would imagine hugely motivating.
One thing I did like though was his introductory speech in the factory to the assembled minions which was quoted at the time in Autosport/F1 Racing on his return to F1 as top dog in Renault.
" Hey, I ama Flavio. . . in thisa sport there are winnas anda w@nkers. . . and I ama no a w@nker "
Classic, and I would imagine hugely motivating.
Wikipedia said:
He received a diploma in Land Surveying at Fassino di Busca's high school with the lowest grades. Briatore found early work as a ski instructor and restaurant manager. He opened a restaurant named Tribüla, which was Briatore's nickname. The restaurant eventually closed.
In the 1970s, he moved to Cuneo and became an assistant to businessman Attilio Dutto, owner of the Paramatti Vernici (formerly owned by Michele Sindona). Dutto was killed on March 21, 1979 in a car bomb attack by an unknown perpetrator. From then on, Briatore started his unorthodox business career.
Its not what you know, its who you know.... In the 1970s, he moved to Cuneo and became an assistant to businessman Attilio Dutto, owner of the Paramatti Vernici (formerly owned by Michele Sindona). Dutto was killed on March 21, 1979 in a car bomb attack by an unknown perpetrator. From then on, Briatore started his unorthodox business career.
Nick M said:
Indidentally, a lot of Piquet's comments remind me of comments made in Steve Matchet's books about his days at Benetton back in the 90s and how Flac was, shall we say, somewhat clueless about what went on behind his back.
I read that book - thought it was fantastic. Great insight into F1 before we had the web and forums etc.onemorelap said:
I like this line the best:
"If you listen to the pit-wall radio, it's like a joke. He hasn't got a clue what is happening in the race. Sometimes he asks if a driver has slick or wet tyres when it is obvious."
Imagining Flavs radio traffic on that one:
FB - "Look at da slow pace of Jr, iz ee on da wet tyres on da dry track Pat?"
Pat - "No Flav he is on the slicks"
FB - "Mamma Mia......"
"If you listen to the pit-wall radio, it's like a joke. He hasn't got a clue what is happening in the race. Sometimes he asks if a driver has slick or wet tyres when it is obvious."
Imagining Flavs radio traffic on that one:
FB - "Look at da slow pace of Jr, iz ee on da wet tyres on da dry track Pat?"
Pat - "No Flav he is on the slicks"
FB - "Mamma Mia......"
johnfelstead said:
Flav's job isn't to know anything about the race weekend on track per se, his job is to keep the Renault board happy and make sure the team is resourced enough both financially and technically to do the job. He has been and is a success in that respect, some would say it's amazing he is managing to keep Renault happy in these times of financial tight belts with manufacturers pulling the plug.
If Piquet jnr doesn't understand the role Flav has, and it appears he doesn't, then he needs some advice to be quiet if he ever wants to get a decent drive again.
My thoughts exactly, Flav isn't there to run the on track activities so why would he proclaim to know anything! If Piquet jnr doesn't understand the role Flav has, and it appears he doesn't, then he needs some advice to be quiet if he ever wants to get a decent drive again.
Piquet has surely exhausted the F1 drivers book of excuses... lets face it, without THAT name he wouldn't be in the car in the first place, but if he had performed then fair enough. The results tell their own story, no matter what the reasons behind them.
interesting article in Motorsport,
Flav quoted that he gave ""Brundle "" a hard time when he partnered Shumi , not realising how fast Michael was , ........""it was my mistake Martin was the best team mate Martin had""
Herbert also got grief from Flav , fair to comment Flav while a good commercial manager definiely not a people manager like Brawn
Flav quoted that he gave ""Brundle "" a hard time when he partnered Shumi , not realising how fast Michael was , ........""it was my mistake Martin was the best team mate Martin had""
Herbert also got grief from Flav , fair to comment Flav while a good commercial manager definiely not a people manager like Brawn
darth_pies said:
Wikipedia said:
He received a diploma in Land Surveying at Fassino di Busca's high school with the lowest grades. Briatore found early work as a ski instructor and restaurant manager. He opened a restaurant named Tribüla, which was Briatore's nickname. The restaurant eventually closed.
In the 1970s, he moved to Cuneo and became an assistant to businessman Attilio Dutto, owner of the Paramatti Vernici (formerly owned by Michele Sindona). Dutto was killed on March 21, 1979 in a car bomb attack by an unknown perpetrator. From then on, Briatore started his unorthodox business career.
Its not what you know, its who you know.... In the 1970s, he moved to Cuneo and became an assistant to businessman Attilio Dutto, owner of the Paramatti Vernici (formerly owned by Michele Sindona). Dutto was killed on March 21, 1979 in a car bomb attack by an unknown perpetrator. From then on, Briatore started his unorthodox business career.
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