Lotus given 13th Slot!
Lotus given 13th Slot!
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Wanta996Gotta

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Tuesday 15th September 2009
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Just heard on BBC - More news to follow

The Riddler

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226 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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Great stuff.

Anyone got a link to a confirmed entry list?

The Riddler

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Tuesday 15th September 2009
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dirty boy

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238 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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Get in!

4sure

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240 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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ah !....thats the lotus position then biglaugh

GKP

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270 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases...


From above url:


Press Release
2010 FIA Formula One World Championship - New Entries 15/09/2009
Following an intensive selection and due diligence process, the FIA has awarded the 13th entry in the 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship to the Lotus F1 Team.

The FIA also received an impressive application from the BMW Sauber Team. However, given that BMW has announced it will withdraw its support in 2010, there are still uncertainties regarding the future ownership of the team.

Nevertheless, the FIA considers that BMW Sauber’s application is of high quality and would constitute a competitive participant in the Championship. As such, it has awarded BMW Sauber the '14th place' in the Championship meaning that it will be entitled to fill any vacancy that arises on the 2010 grid.

In addition, the FIA believes that a good case can be made for expanding the grid to 14 teams. The FIA will be consulting urgently with the existing teams regarding the introduction of an appropriate rule change to expand the grid to 28 cars in time for the first Grand Prix in 2010.

Detailed below is information about the new team that has been confirmed to compete in the Championship from next year.

Company Name: 1Malaysia F1 Team Sdn Bhd
Team Name: Lotus F1 Team
Country: Malaysia
Team Principal: Tony Fernandes

A partnership between the Malaysian Government and a consortium of Malaysian entrepreneurs, 1Malaysia F1 Team returns the Lotus name as a constructor to Formula One for the first time since 1994. The team will initially be based at the RTN facility in Norfolk, UK, some 10 miles from the Lotus Cars factory. A 50,000 square foot fully equipped facility, RTN was built by Toyota for its initial Formula One programme and then used by Bentley for its successful Le Mans programme.

The team’s future design, R&D, manufacturing and technical centre will be purpose built at Malaysia’s Sepang International Circuit.

Team Principal Tony Fernandes is the founder and CEO of the Malaysian-based Tune Group, owner of the Air Asia airline. The team’s Technical Director Mike Gascoyne has over 20 years of experience in Formula One having previously performed the same role for the Force India, Toyota, Renault and Jordan Formula One teams.

As part of its application to compete in the 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship, the team has agreed an engine supply deal with Cosworth and a wide variety of technical partnerships including Xtrac and FondTech.



kevin ritson

3,423 posts

256 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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Does this '14th entry' mean that Renault are now surplus to requirements?

llewop

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240 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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kevin ritson said:
Does this '14th entry' mean that Renault are now surplus to requirements?
eek thats a good shout!

certainly an interesting twist!

I actually thought part of the reason for going for 13 teams, so 26 cars was practical: how many garages there are at circuits (of F1 standard) or how many cars could be fitted on a grid running to F1 spec (I know grids for other races could have more than that....)

hmmm....wonder if it is in the FIA regs for circuits how many F1 cars they need to be able to accommodate!?

Project 644

37,069 posts

217 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78648

The Lotus F1 team has been awarded the 13th entry in the 2010 Formula 1 championship, the governing body announced on Tuesday.

The FIA said it had also received an "impressive" application from the BMW Sauber team, but given the uncertainty about the ownership of the Hinwil squad the governing body decided to give the entry to Lotus.

BMW was, however, given the "14th place" in case any vacancy arises on the 2010 grid.

The governing body added the it will look into expanding the grid to 14 teams, "consulting urgently with the existing teams regarding the introduction of an appropriate rule change to expand the grid to 28 cars in time for the first Grand Prix in 2010."

As revealed by AUTOSPORT earlier this month, the Lotus entry will be backed a company called 1Malaysia F1 Team Sdn Bhd, with Tony Fernandes as team principal. Fernandes is the founder and CEO of the Malaysian-based Tune Group, owner of the Air Asia airline.

The FIA said Mike Gascoyne will be the team's technical director and that Lotus will use Cosworth engines.

The company is a partnership between the Malaysian government and a consortium of Malaysian entrepreneurs. The Lotus name will return to Formula 1 as a constructor for the first time since 1994.

Lotus will be initially based at the RTN facility in Norfolk, UK, some 10 miles from the Lotus Cars factory. The 50,000 square foot facility was originally built by Toyota for its initial Formula 1 programme and then used by Bentley for its Le Mans programme.

The team's future design, R&D, manufacturing and technical centre will be built at Malaysia's Sepang International Circuit.


Wanta996Gotta

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Tuesday 15th September 2009
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llewop said:
kevin ritson said:
Does this '14th entry' mean that Renault are now surplus to requirements?
eek thats a good shout!

certainly an interesting twist!

I actually thought part of the reason for going for 13 teams, so 26 cars was practical: how many garages there are at circuits (of F1 standard) or how many cars could be fitted on a grid running to F1 spec (I know grids for other races could have more than that....)

hmmm....wonder if it is in the FIA regs for circuits how many F1 cars they need to be able to accommodate!?
I am sure with all the millions slushing about in F1 that adding one or two garages would not be an issue. It could however put a nail in the coffin for Ferrari's 3 car team idea.

luke111s

847 posts

217 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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Wow, that is unexpected! woohoo

Project 644

37,069 posts

217 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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Wanta996Gotta said:
llewop said:
kevin ritson said:
Does this '14th entry' mean that Renault are now surplus to requirements?
eek thats a good shout!

certainly an interesting twist!

I actually thought part of the reason for going for 13 teams, so 26 cars was practical: how many garages there are at circuits (of F1 standard) or how many cars could be fitted on a grid running to F1 spec (I know grids for other races could have more than that....)

hmmm....wonder if it is in the FIA regs for circuits how many F1 cars they need to be able to accommodate!?
I am sure with all the millions slushing about in F1 that adding one or two garages would not be an issue. It could however put a nail in the coffin for Ferrari's 3 car team idea.
The "millions" sloshing around in F1 are certainly not in the coffers of the circuits. Monaco doesn't even have the space for it, let alone the inclination. The only way of accomodating another team would be to remove the FIA scrutineering bay and other guff out of the pits and into the paddock.

Forbes82

812 posts

208 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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So am i right in thinking this is actually the real lotus (Lotus Cars - Owned by proton Malaysia) getting involved with the previous bid (Gascoyne/Litespeed - Own the Team Lotus name but have nothing to do with lotus)? At first the Team Lotus bid had nothing to do with Lotus Cars, but now if its all based in malaysia and with the new Lotus CEO i'm guessing its a joint bid now? Having the actual real Lotus behind them makes the team alot more relevent to the lotus name.

Wanta996Gotta

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Tuesday 15th September 2009
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Forbes82 said:
So am i right in thinking this is actually the real lotus (Lotus Cars - Owned by proton Malaysia) getting involved with the previous bid (Gascoyne/Litespeed - Own the Team Lotus name but have nothing to do with lotus)? At first the Team Lotus bid had nothing to do with Lotus Cars, but now if its all based in malaysia and with the new Lotus CEO i'm guessing its a joint bid now? Having the actual real Lotus behind them makes the team alot more relevent to the lotus name.
This is the real Malaysian backed Proton Lotus. Gascoyne will be tecnical director, wither litespeed have anything to do with it i dont know but they have not been mentioned.

Big Lotus fan so hope they do well. Piquet Junior and Senna would be interesting but more likely Trulli and maybe a Senna/Piquet.

llewop

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240 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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Project 644 said:
Wanta996Gotta said:
llewop said:
kevin ritson said:
Does this '14th entry' mean that Renault are now surplus to requirements?
eek thats a good shout!

certainly an interesting twist!

I actually thought part of the reason for going for 13 teams, so 26 cars was practical: how many garages there are at circuits (of F1 standard) or how many cars could be fitted on a grid running to F1 spec (I know grids for other races could have more than that....)

hmmm....wonder if it is in the FIA regs for circuits how many F1 cars they need to be able to accommodate!?
I am sure with all the millions slushing about in F1 that adding one or two garages would not be an issue. It could however put a nail in the coffin for Ferrari's 3 car team idea.
The "millions" sloshing around in F1 are certainly not in the coffers of the circuits. Monaco doesn't even have the space for it, let alone the inclination. The only way of accomodating another team would be to remove the FIA scrutineering bay and other guff out of the pits and into the paddock.
It was Monaco in particular that I was thinking would struggle to fit in extra - it may even struggle to fit in the 3 extra teams as it is!? I have now checked the FIA F1 sporting regulations...26 cars is what it says. Apparently all other series use some calculation to work out how many cars you can put on the grid: for F1 it is different...of course! rofl

But do agree that Luca's 'lets run a third car for Schui' idea is not exactly helped by it!

kambites

71,463 posts

250 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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Wanta996Gotta said:
Forbes82 said:
So am i right in thinking this is actually the real lotus (Lotus Cars - Owned by proton Malaysia) getting involved with the previous bid (Gascoyne/Litespeed - Own the Team Lotus name but have nothing to do with lotus)? At first the Team Lotus bid had nothing to do with Lotus Cars, but now if its all based in malaysia and with the new Lotus CEO i'm guessing its a joint bid now? Having the actual real Lotus behind them makes the team alot more relevent to the lotus name.
This is the real Malaysian backed Proton Lotus. Gascoyne will be tecnical director, wither litespeed have anything to do with it i dont know but they have not been mentioned.

Big Lotus fan so hope they do well. Piquet Junior and Senna would be interesting but more likely Trulli and maybe a Senna/Piquet.
Oh, that's interesting. I'd assumed this was the old Litespeed group.

MiniMan64

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219 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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Wow.

What happened to Prodrive/Aston Martin then? Another victim of the Mercedes/Cosworth engine supply debacle?

patmahe

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233 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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Woo, I'll have a team to shout for again, haven't had one since Jordan left biggrin

Vlad.

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V8 GRF

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239 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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kambites said:
Wanta996Gotta said:
Forbes82 said:
So am i right in thinking this is actually the real lotus (Lotus Cars - Owned by proton Malaysia) getting involved with the previous bid (Gascoyne/Litespeed - Own the Team Lotus name but have nothing to do with lotus)? At first the Team Lotus bid had nothing to do with Lotus Cars, but now if its all based in malaysia and with the new Lotus CEO i'm guessing its a joint bid now? Having the actual real Lotus behind them makes the team alot more relevent to the lotus name.
This is the real Malaysian backed Proton Lotus. Gascoyne will be tecnical director, wither litespeed have anything to do with it i dont know but they have not been mentioned.

Big Lotus fan so hope they do well. Piquet Junior and Senna would be interesting but more likely Trulli and maybe a Senna/Piquet.
Oh, that's interesting. I'd assumed this was the old Litespeed group.
It is the Litespeed group and it's not Lotus Cars.

Nothing more than a name with a team principle who has been sacked/suspended on a regular basis by his employers... looking good..... not

I'm sure Colin is spinning as we speak.