The Official Singapore GP 2009 thread **SPOILERS**
The Official Singapore GP 2009 thread **SPOILERS**
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Project 644

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37,069 posts

217 months

Sunday 20th September 2009
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Well, it's only a week away now. With an absolute st-storm surrounding F1 these last couple of weeks, what the "sport" needs is a good clean race.

So, down to the important stuff; Food!

Mrs 644 has declared that chinese takeaway is close enough so that is that. No Beer aparently as it is supposed to lower your sperm count.

Predictions

Rosberg
Button
Hamilton

Over to you guys. smile

Jungles

3,587 posts

250 months

Sunday 20th September 2009
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Thinking of adding to the human population, are you? wink

Singaporean noodles FTW! biggrin

Button
Barrichello
Vettel

Massive aero updates on the Red Bull for this race. It would be interesting to see if they've caught up to the Brawns.

Edited by Jungles on Sunday 20th September 10:49

Conian

8,030 posts

230 months

Sunday 20th September 2009
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sorry for a mini-thread hijack.

as RB are coming with a new aero package, that'll leave them with an old aero kit that worked very well at some tracks.

are the teams allowed to have several packages that they can pick and choose from depending on the type of track, instead of just trying to tweak their latest version to suit each track at a time?

FourWheelDrift

92,281 posts

313 months

Sunday 20th September 2009
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1st Alonso
2nd Rosberg
3rd Hamilton

Grosjean crashing at turn 17 just after Alonso pits early.

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

246 months

Sunday 20th September 2009
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Conian said:
sorry for a mini-thread hijack.

as RB are coming with a new aero package, that'll leave them with an old aero kit that worked very well at some tracks.

are the teams allowed to have several packages that they can pick and choose from depending on the type of track, instead of just trying to tweak their latest version to suit each track at a time?
They can run the chassis/aero package of their choice, McLaren running both long and short chassis earlier in the year & Force India's low drag spec cars for the last two races being goog examples

MartG

22,791 posts

233 months

Sunday 20th September 2009
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Singapore police arrest the entire Renault team

Rollcage

11,345 posts

221 months

Sunday 20th September 2009
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It will be interesting if Force India can continue their recent run at this track.How about Sutil short filled for P1/P2 and Liuzzi off at T17?Half the grid will propably try that though - synchronised crashing anyone?



Edited by Rollcage on Sunday 20th September 13:52

sniff diesel

13,125 posts

241 months

Sunday 20th September 2009
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Rollcage said:
synchonised crashing anyone?
Just like Belguim 1998?

FourWheelDrift

92,281 posts

313 months

Sunday 20th September 2009
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Rollcage said:
It will be interesting if Force India can continue their recent run at this track.
Unlikely, they have a very low drag car when run without high downforce package. Spa and Monza are the only tracks with low downforce used. Before that at other tracks where they had to run more downforce they couldn't generate enough to give them quick lap times. If you start as (possibly) the lowest drag car on the grid in basic trim you have to have more downforce added than others to get the same effect as the others and they haven't been able to add enough for it to work. Even with as much downforce as they can get on the car they have still been fast through the speed traps, good but it kills the overall lap times through all the corners where the downforce and grip is essential.

Rollcage

11,345 posts

221 months

Sunday 20th September 2009
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FourWheelDrift said:
Rollcage said:
It will be interesting if Force India can continue their recent run at this track.
Unlikely, they have a very low drag car when run without high downforce package. Spa and Monza are the only tracks with low downforce used. Before that at other tracks where they had to run more downforce they couldn't generate enough to give them quick lap times. If you start as (possibly) the lowest drag car on the grid in basic trim you have to have more downforce added than others to get the same effect as the others and they haven't been able to add enough for it to work. Even with as much downforce as they can get on the car they have still been fast through the speed traps, good but it kills the overall lap times through all the corners where the downforce and grip is essential.
Exactly. Fisi's move may not seem so bad after next weekend!

Big weekend for Brawn - see if they can make the car work as well as it did at Monaco.

Conian

8,030 posts

230 months

Sunday 20th September 2009
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AndrewW-G said:
They can run the chassis/aero package of their choice, McLaren running both long and short chassis earlier in the year & Force India's low drag spec cars for the last two races being goog examples
thank you.

makes engine limits seem a little redundant if they can design several different cars per season

Project 644

Original Poster:

37,069 posts

217 months

Sunday 20th September 2009
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Jungles said:
Thinking of adding to the human population, are you? wink
Don't know about Human, but yeah hehe

llewop

3,958 posts

240 months

Sunday 20th September 2009
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Conian said:
AndrewW-G said:
They can run the chassis/aero package of their choice, McLaren running both long and short chassis earlier in the year & Force India's low drag spec cars for the last two races being goog examples
thank you.

makes engine limits seem a little redundant if they can design several different cars per season
not really 'several different cars' - just different bodywork: the cell will be the same (or they'd have to keep getting them crash tested) but anyway; the limiting factor is production capability and cash!

williamp

20,392 posts

302 months

Sunday 20th September 2009
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The long and short chassis. Can you give some more info please. Sounds interesting. Is the wheelbase different, for example?

Project 644

Original Poster:

37,069 posts

217 months

Sunday 20th September 2009
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williamp said:
The long and short chassis. Can you give some more info please. Sounds interesting. Is the wheelbase different, for example?
Different wishbones to change the wheelbase. Or the bellhousing and input shaft can be shorter for the short wheelbase cars. It won't be a massively different wheelbase length, perhaps 100mm at the most.

llewop

3,958 posts

240 months

Sunday 20th September 2009
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Project 644 said:
williamp said:
The long and short chassis. Can you give some more info please. Sounds interesting. Is the wheelbase different, for example?
Different wishbones to change the wheelbase. Or the bellhousing and input shaft can be shorter for the short wheelbase cars. It won't be a massively different wheelbase length, perhaps 100mm at the most.
according to a tech review thingy on Autosport they changed the front suspension etc to move the front wheels back about 7.5 cm, changed the weight distribution; more weight on the front than usual

Marcia

5,099 posts

219 months

Sunday 20th September 2009
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Mclaren are bringing a big upgrade to singapore,their last one of the season.

1.Lewis
2.Webber
2.Barri

It could change by the weekend but here is an early forecast.
http://www.accuweather.com/world-forecast-weekends...

Edited by Marcia on Sunday 20th September 19:27

BigBen

12,155 posts

259 months

Monday 21st September 2009
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Jenson scoring 5 points more than either Red Bull driver will narrow the driver's title down to only him and Rubens. Based on form at other high downforce circuits this is not unlikely.

Ben

FourWheelDrift

92,281 posts

313 months

Monday 21st September 2009
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I wonder what will happen if Grosjean crashes, he may well do it's only his 3rd race and it's a tricky night race.

wink

Miss Pitstop

4,289 posts

231 months

Monday 21st September 2009
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I have bought some Tiger beer today, ready for the race and will also cook some sort of noodle dish. Hopefully the Brawns will pull further ahead, with Jenson getting the better of Reubens.