The "Massa would have won the 2008 WDC" thread
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I can sense the irony in the OP's post. But these are THE FACTS:
If nobody else was racing in F1 last year apart from him, Massa would be world champ.
If nobody was racing in f1 this year apart from him, Massa would not have had the accident and would be world champ by now
See? Massa would be 2x world champion by now. Fact.
If nobody else was racing in F1 last year apart from him, Massa would be world champ.
If nobody was racing in f1 this year apart from him, Massa would not have had the accident and would be world champ by now
See? Massa would be 2x world champion by now. Fact.
RacerMDR said:
my memory is fuzzy - but nobody should be allowed a WDC after spinning off 6 times in one race. IT should be a rule 
Or being handed a dubious victory at SPA after driving like a bus driver when the true winner was penalised for a reason the FIA have not properly explained to this day.
Edited by RacerMDR on Monday 21st September 16:10
amokwa said:
RacerMDR said:
my memory is fuzzy - but nobody should be allowed a WDC after spinning off 6 times in one race. IT should be a rule 
Or being handed a dubious victory at SPA after driving like a bus driver when the true winner was penalised for a reason the FIA have not properly explained to this day.
Edited by RacerMDR on Monday 21st September 16:10
If i'd started karting when I was 5, met Ron Dennis, was as good as Lewis blah blah - i'd be world champion by now as well!!
IF Massa had scored more points than Lewis - he would be world champion! He didn't..........
RacerMDR said:
amokwa said:
RacerMDR said:
my memory is fuzzy - but nobody should be allowed a WDC after spinning off 6 times in one race. IT should be a rule 
Or being handed a dubious victory at SPA after driving like a bus driver when the true winner was penalised for a reason the FIA have not properly explained to this day.
Edited by RacerMDR on Monday 21st September 16:10
If i'd started karting when I was 5, met Ron Dennis, was as good as Lewis blah blah - i'd be world champion by now as well!!
IF Massa had scored more points than Lewis - he would be world champion! He didn't..........
H___
I do like Ferrari now - i've been converted since Jean Toad has left......
I still think Massa is a bit pony though! biggrin
I also like Fisi
I very much enjoyed Maranello a few weeks ago.....I was just wishing they would employ some drivers I can get behind!
I like Stefano Domenicali, and I like Fisi.
I think the tides are turning.......
Hope OMAS is well!
I do like Ferrari now - i've been converted since Jean Toad has left......I still think Massa is a bit pony though! biggrin
I also like Fisi
I very much enjoyed Maranello a few weeks ago.....I was just wishing they would employ some drivers I can get behind!
I like Stefano Domenicali, and I like Fisi.
I think the tides are turning.......
Hope OMAS is well!
Edited by RacerMDR on Monday 21st September 16:45
I think the central motivation for the posts about Massa's 2008 season is that people want to give him some credit for being able to compete and withstand the pressure for an entire season, to emphasize his speed--and to voice the support of another driver so as to, maybe, balance out the obvious and abundant support for the current WDC. It's just that supporters overstate the case by saying would've and should've. Massa has made changes that I think are rare for a driver, and he has shown he can compete all year for top honors. The more drivers able to do that in F1, the more interesting the season.
You're quite right - Massa showed that he can be extremely fast and he also exhibited a few demonstrations of surprisingly ballsy racecraft.
But he didn't win the WDC (with or without a little help from the powers that be), and braying about hypothetical situations as if they are real is rather tiresome, and means I have to start silly threads such as this one.
But he didn't win the WDC (with or without a little help from the powers that be), and braying about hypothetical situations as if they are real is rather tiresome, and means I have to start silly threads such as this one.

Muzzlehatch said:
You're quite right - Massa showed that he can be extremely fast and he also exhibited a few demonstrations of surprisingly ballsy racecraft.
But he didn't win the WDC (with or without a little help from the powers that be), and braying about hypothetical situations as if they are real is rather tiresome, and means I have to start silly threads such as this one.
EXACTLY! But he didn't win the WDC (with or without a little help from the powers that be), and braying about hypothetical situations as if they are real is rather tiresome, and means I have to start silly threads such as this one.

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ks, she'd be my uncle. Therefore Massa is clearly the moral victor of the 2009 F1 season.