South Korea.....FFS

[Mini1275]

Just read on BBC that South Korea is going to be the opening track for next year

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula...

FFS, what History do they have, People like shorty are on about getting rid of Monza, British Grand prix etc and he puts a race where knowone is interested :rant:
Is it just me or do you think this is wrong and are pissed off with him, i hate the directiom F1 is taking....Get him out now!

Edited by Mini1275 on Tuesday 22 September 11:35

[patmahe]

Yep, I heard that and thought what the fk? I'm largely apathetic about Bernie and Max ruining F1. The cries of the fans go unheard so why bother. The only glimmer of hope was when the manufacturers looked like they might actually break away.

I hope that once the Max/Bernie era draws to a close that someone takes over, who actually has an interest in and isn't willing to sacrifice the soul of the sport for a few extra quid he doesn't even need.

[Project 644]

Well the BBC are wrong. Look on the Autosport website.

Bahrain first, then Aus. Brazil to finish. Canada somewhere in the middle of the season. All provisional dates are there.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78775

Edited to add link

Edited by Project 644 on Tuesday 22 September 11:40

[FourWheelDrift]

Mini1275 said:

Just read on BBC that South Korea is going to be the opening track for next year

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula...

It doesn't say they are the opening track. Anyway Bahrain are the opening race of the 2010 season, this is released FIA calendar.

14/3 Bahrain
28/3 Australia
04/4 Malaysia
18/4 China
09/5 Spain
23/5 Monaco
30/5 Turkey
13/6 Canada
27/6 Europe (Valencia)
11/7 Great Britain
25/7 Germany
01/8 Hungary
29/8 Belgium
12/9 Italy
26/9 Singapore
03/10 Japan
17/10 Korea
31/10 Abu Dhabi
14/11 Brazil

[anonymousposter]

patmahe said:

Yep, I heard that and thought what the fk? I'm largely apathetic about Bernie and Max ruining F1. The cries of the fans go unheard so why bother. The only glimmer of hope was when the manufacturers looked like they might actually break away.

Cries of which fans though?

You obviously consider the South Korean fans as less important than the European ones. If the race is a sell-out, will you still suggest that fans aren't being listened to?


Oh and then there's the supposedly amazing British Grand Prix that can never seemingly stump up either the cash or the facilities to stay on the calendar.

[mrmr96]

Didn't they have a GP in China a few years ago where only a fraction of the seats were sold? I'm sure there was a whole grandstand surrounding one of the hairpins with no one in it at all.

[Mini1275]

My mistake, but still south korea FFS

[Wanta996Gotta]

anonymousposter said:

patmahe said:

Yep, I heard that and thought what the fk? I'm largely apathetic about Bernie and Max ruining F1. The cries of the fans go unheard so why bother. The only glimmer of hope was when the manufacturers looked like they might actually break away.

Cries of which fans though?

You obviously consider the South Korean fans as less important than the European ones. If the race is a sell-out, will you still suggest that fans aren't being listened to?


Oh and then there's the supposedly amazing British Grand Prix that can never seemingly stump up either the cash or the facilities to stay on the calendar.

Not sure were you have heard the Grand Prix in South Korea is sold out? As for facilities? Monza looked like something from the stone ages. Its nothing to do with facilities or the fans - its how much the goverment pays Bernie. The British Grand prix is always sold out and one of the best well supported on the calender, no driver has a bad word to say about it.

Just wait until India holds a Grand Prix in 2011 with a large percentage of the population not being able to watch it as they cant afford a TV never mind pay 6 months wages to watch it live.

Its a joke. Bernie is joke and i wish that Ferrari,Mclaren,Williams etc,etc had the balls to form a breakaway.

Edited by Wanta996Gotta on Tuesday 22 September 12:00

[JonRB]

anonymousposter said:

You obviously consider the South Korean fans as less important than the European ones. If the race is a sell-out, will you still suggest that fans aren't being listened to?

Because, of course, South Korea have a large number of F1 fans compared to Europe, don't they?

The grandstands will be empty. Just like at many of the new circuits.

[Project 644]

anonymousposter said:

patmahe said:

Yep, I heard that and thought what the fk? I'm largely apathetic about Bernie and Max ruining F1. The cries of the fans go unheard so why bother. The only glimmer of hope was when the manufacturers looked like they might actually break away.

Cries of which fans though?

You obviously consider the South Korean fans as less important than the European ones. If the race is a sell-out, will you still suggest that fans aren't being listened to?


Oh and then there's the supposedly amazing British Grand Prix that can never seemingly stump up either the cash or the facilities to stay on the calendar.

You are Bernie AICMFP

[FourWheelDrift]

JonRB said:

The grandstands will be empty. Just like at many of the new circuits.

They will be so ronery.

[Ponk]

Slightly off topic but didn't the European used to move each year, Imola etc? How come we're stuck with Valencia for eternity now?

[Project 644]

FourWheelDrift said:

JonRB said:

The grandstands will be empty. Just like at many of the new circuits.

They will be so ronery.

Wrong country though

[Project 644]

Ponk said:

Slightly off topic but didn't the European used to move each year, Imola etc? How come we're stuck with Valencia for eternity now?

Back when I wore Clarks shoes to school.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Grand_Prix

This should tell you all you need to know.

[BoRED S2upid]

Is anyone really suprised about South Korea holding a Grand Prix?. Hell if you have enough money you can have a grand prix where you live. Scottish Grand Prix if you like with tartan run off areas just throw enough money at Bernie.

[belleair302]

F1 today is controlled by the sale of TV Rights and Government backed races, i.e. the Middle East, Turkey, China, Malayasia and Singapore. The fans are a huge problem for Bernie, he gets no revenue from ticket sales and has no interest in full or empty grandstands. China is a good example of an empty circuit which is Bernie's dream.

Remember CVC Partners borrowed heavily to buy F1 and need to pay back a serious amount of money each year in interest alone, with new races in any country which will pay. I expect in five years time to see two races in Brazil, one in Nigeria, one in southern Russia and few if any races in Europe....I kid you not!

[Wanta996Gotta]

BoRED S2upid said:

Is anyone really suprised about South Korea holding a Grand Prix?. Hell if you have enough money you can have a grand prix where you live. Scottish Grand Prix if you like with tartan run off areas just throw enough money at Bernie.

Spot On. It has nothing to do with fans or if the country has an interest in F1. Its purely financial and countries like India,China,Bahrain and Abu Dhabi use them for self-promotional purposes only.

[patmahe]

Wanta996Gotta said:

anonymousposter said:

patmahe said:

Yep, I heard that and thought what the fk? I'm largely apathetic about Bernie and Max ruining F1. The cries of the fans go unheard so why bother. The only glimmer of hope was when the manufacturers looked like they might actually break away.

Cries of which fans though?

You obviously consider the South Korean fans as less important than the European ones. If the race is a sell-out, will you still suggest that fans aren't being listened to?


Oh and then there's the supposedly amazing British Grand Prix that can never seemingly stump up either the cash or the facilities to stay on the calendar.

Not sure were you have heard the Grand Prix in South Korea is sold out? As for facilities? Monza looked like something from the stone ages. Its nothing to do with facilities or the fans - its how much the goverment pays Bernie. The British Grand prix is always sold out and one of the best well supported on the calender, no driver has a bad word to say about it.

Just wait until India holds a Grand Prix in 2011 with a large percentage of the population not being able to watch it as they cant afford a TV never mind pay 6 months wages to watch it live.

Its a joke. Bernie is joke and i wish that Ferrari,Mclaren,Williams etc,etc had the balls to form a breakaway.

Edited by Wanta996Gotta on Tuesday 22 September 12:00

Exactly, the fans don't come into it, its whoever can put the biggest cheque in Bernies pocket, simple as that.

[skinny]

yep, and if a circuit can get the government to pay bernie's fat cheque, then they don't even need to bother about filling their grandstands. hence the difference between most european races, and places like china and turkey.

[anonymousposter]

patmahe said:

Wanta996Gotta said:

anonymousposter said:

patmahe said:

Yep, I heard that and thought what the fk? I'm largely apathetic about Bernie and Max ruining F1. The cries of the fans go unheard so why bother. The only glimmer of hope was when the manufacturers looked like they might actually break away.

Cries of which fans though?

You obviously consider the South Korean fans as less important than the European ones. If the race is a sell-out, will you still suggest that fans aren't being listened to?


Oh and then there's the supposedly amazing British Grand Prix that can never seemingly stump up either the cash or the facilities to stay on the calendar.

Not sure were you have heard the Grand Prix in South Korea is sold out? As for facilities? Monza looked like something from the stone ages. Its nothing to do with facilities or the fans - its how much the goverment pays Bernie. The British Grand prix is always sold out and one of the best well supported on the calender, no driver has a bad word to say about it.

Just wait until India holds a Grand Prix in 2011 with a large percentage of the population not being able to watch it as they cant afford a TV never mind pay 6 months wages to watch it live.

Its a joke. Bernie is joke and i wish that Ferrari,Mclaren,Williams etc,etc had the balls to form a breakaway.

Edited by Wanta996Gotta on Tuesday 22 September 12:00

Exactly, the fans don't come into it, its whoever can put the biggest cheque in Bernies pocket, simple as that.

And who pays for that cheque?

At the end of the day it's about fans.

Perhaps the fact it's not European fans is what upsets people the most.