the vote for the best rally or race car ever!!!!
the vote for the best rally or race car ever!!!!
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richie barry

Original Poster:

610 posts

234 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
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a poll that is to find out every ones favorite rally or race car could be anything a ford capri touring to a f1 car rally cross it could be your own car comment and post pics



ps mine is a ford rs200

rallycross

13,749 posts

266 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
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there's so many possible answers to this!

To give you some ideas watch this fantastic clip of early 80's Gp4 circuit of ireland with Ari Vatenan;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hck7MBnFWPM&fea...



My short list would include


Mk2 Escort RS1800
Metro 6R4

Porsche 917
Can An cars (any!)

Sierra RS500
BMW Batmobile Csi

then the wildest home made machines from the 70's Special Saloons

Mick Hill Boss Capri / Beetle Chevrolet
Gerry Marshal Big Bertha Firenza

Mat Hammond

1,044 posts

238 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
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A2 Quattro
Delta S4
Mk2 Escort


DJC

23,563 posts

265 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
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Why would anyone choose an RS200?

By any objective definition of "best" the RS200 is a long way short.

For rally cars? Well lets be honest it isnt actually that long a list. It basically goes:

Healey 3000
Mini
HF
Stratos
Escort
Quattro
S4
Integrale
205 T16
Imprezza
EVO

Of that lot you have to look at the Deltas and combine their results. Once you do that you pretty much realise on the rally side its no contest. The Lancia Delta is best rally car there has ever been by a country mile.

Race cars? Its either very simple or very complicated depending on how you look at it. The variety and complexity of the diverse range of racing cars or the competence of once across a range or longevity. To my mind that makes 5 particular motors stand out:

1. Alfa 138/9
2. Maserati 250F
3. Jaguar D Type
4. Porsche 917
5. Lotus 49

There is of course a leftfield answer...the immortal 7.

rdjohn

7,166 posts

224 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
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Lotus 72, perfection

thunderbelmont

2,982 posts

253 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
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Best Rally Car

=1. Austin Mini Cooper S
=1. Ford Escort (in it's many incarnations)
=3. Skoda 130R
=3. Vauxhall Nova Sport
5. Opel Manta 400
6. Metro 6R4 (purely for the noise!)
7. Opel Monza (Austin McHale made one of these dance on Irish Tarmac!)
8. Ford Sierra Cosworth
9. Vauxhall Chevette HSR
10. Talbot Sunbeam Lotus

(I liked Gp.4 better than Gp.B)

Race Car.

=1. Lotus 49
=1. Mosler MT900R
=1. March 707/717
=1. Harry



kiteless

12,557 posts

233 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
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"Best"??

What? Best looking? Most Successful? Both?

I'll open with "both". Lotus 72 or the early McLaren MP4's of Lauda / Prost / Senna.




dpbird90

5,535 posts

219 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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If you mean best looking, Aston Martin DBR1 (1959 Le Mans winner):



Most successful? McLaren MP4/4 (1988 F1 car):



Or a combination of looks and success, the Lotus 72;


Jungles

3,587 posts

250 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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Ford Escort Mk.1 BDA



Edited by Jungles on Friday 25th September 12:20

xspencex

1,534 posts

265 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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Favourite Rally Car
Audi Quattro

Favourite F1 Car
Ferrari 412T

Best. . .no idea. Maybe with rallying it would be the Escort, it's still going strong today! And for race car. . .Porsche 911 (all incarnations), never has any car covered more motorsport miles!

maximus176

11 posts

225 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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No Contest!

Lancia Delta Integrale (includes HF 4x4, 8v, 16v variants)

Most rally wins, most championship crowns.


TedMaul

2,092 posts

242 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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Lotus '49

Muzzlehatch

4,768 posts

271 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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Lancia Delta HF Integrale: 6 consecutive World Rally Chapionships:

1987
1988
1989
1990
1991
1992

Rex Ironstone

1,130 posts

219 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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If we are talking about a particular chassis then I can't go past this.



Ambrose ressurected Ford in the supercars after some terrible years with the AU falcon.

Don't quote me but I believe he raced the same chassis for pretty much all of his 2003 & 2004 Championships.

DJC

23,563 posts

265 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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Muzzlehatch said:
Lancia Delta HF Integrale: 6 consecutive World Rally Chapionships:

1987
1988
1989
1990
1991
1992
Just the Delta chaps. Why exclude the S4?

As to the Lotus question. Do you pick the 49 or 72? Which won more, lasted longer, was more successful and more innovative?

Mini1275

11,098 posts

211 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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Porsche 917
Audi 200 Quattro Trans-am
Ferrari 250 GTO

Eric Mc

125,609 posts

294 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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When you say F1, do you mean GP? GP racing predates F1 racing by a few decades so it would ne very remiss to omit some of the great GP cars of the pre WW2 era.

This, for example, must rank as one of the all time greats of motor racing



Edited by Eric Mc on Friday 25th September 09:47

Project 644

37,069 posts

217 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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Lotus 49 R3.

mchammer89

3,127 posts

242 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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Project 644 said:


Lotus 49 R3.
+1

Mark A S

2,100 posts

217 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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Gp 4 Mk 2 BDA Escort
Auto Union V16
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