Button won't win title by dirty tricks
Button won't win title by dirty tricks
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Wanta996Gotta

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236 months

Friday 2nd October 2009
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I wonder if its a dig at Senna or Schumacher or BOTH?

Jenson Button will not resort to dirty tricks to win the world championship, Formula 1's points leader declared during a media briefing in the build-up to the Japanese Grand Prix this weekend.

The Briton is fully aware that if circumstances fall his way, he could win his first F1 world title at Suzuka - scene of so many previous dramatic and controversial showdowns in the past.

But Button, who holds a 15-point advantage over Brawn team-mate Rubens Barrichello, says that if he drove the Brazilian off the track in an attempt to secure the title, he wouldn't be able to derive any satisfaction from becoming world champion.

"I don't think it means so much to you [if you do that]," said Button. "It matters what sort of person you are, but it wouldn't mean so much to me if I did that or if I did something during the season like stopping the car on the circuit.

"I would feel like I have cheated myself and I am not the only driver who feels that. If Rubens was a different character maybe I would think differently, and I was in a different situation with a team-mate that I hated but I am not in that situation.

"I would feel cheated and I would feel like I cheated the people watching."

Button, who counts the bitterly contested 1989 championship – ultimately won by Alain Prost after he and McLaren team-mate Ayrton Senna had collided at Suzuka – as his favourite championship, says he would rather not win the title at all than to take it by foul means.

"Otherwise you would always think I have got this title but I cheated," he said. "What is the point of that? "It is a lie doing a running race and taking a short cut and getting a good time. You just don't do it. It would be just like robbing a bank."

Asked if he was prepared to bring more menace into his driving approach to secure victory, Button replied: "No. I don't see the point. It just ends up in accidents. It is better to be precise and for me I don't see what you are trying to get at."

Edited by Wanta996Gotta on Friday 2nd October 17:47

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

246 months

Friday 2nd October 2009
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He was hardly likely to say "I'm going to win it even if I have to be a complete and utter " is he rolleyes

SeeFive

8,353 posts

262 months

Friday 2nd October 2009
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No need for tricks, he just needs to lose to his team mate by less than 5 points a race.

Should be a piece of piss for a man of his abilities.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

234 months

Friday 2nd October 2009
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Wanta996Gotta said:
Jenson Button will not resort to dirty tricks to win the world championship, Formula 1's points leader declared during a media briefing in the build-up to the Japanese Grand Prix this weekend.

The Briton is fully aware that if circumstances fall his way, he could win his first F1 world title at Suzuka - scene of so many previous dramatic and controversial showdowns in the past.

But Button, who holds a 15-point advantage over Brawn team-mate Rubens Barrichello, says that if he drove the Brazilian off the track in an attempt to secure the title, he wouldn't be able to derive any satisfaction from becoming world champion.

"I don't think it means so much to you [if you do that]," said Button. "It matters what sort of person you are, but it wouldn't mean so much to me if I did that or if I did something during the season like stopping the car on the circuit.<<< Shuey Monaco dig for sure wink

"I would feel like I have cheated myself and I am not the only driver who feels that. If Rubens was a different character maybe I would think differently, and I was in a different situation with a team-mate that I hated but I am not in that situation.

"I would feel cheated and I would feel like I cheated the people watching."

Button, who counts the bitterly contested 1989 championship – ultimately won by Alain Prost after he and McLaren team-mate Ayrton Senna had collided at Suzuka – as his favourite championship, says he would rather not win the title at all than to take it by foul means.

"Otherwise you would always think I have got this title but I cheated," he said. "What is the point of that? "It is a lie doing a running race and taking a short cut and getting a good time. You just don't do it. It would be just like robbing a bank."

Asked if he was prepared to bring more menace into his driving approach to secure victory, Button replied: "No. I don't see the point. It just ends up in accidents. <<< Senna or lets face it Schuey reference but prob not a specific dig It is better to be precise and for me I don't see what you are trying to get at."
Edited by hornetrider on Friday 2nd October 18:12

Miss Pitstop

4,289 posts

231 months

Friday 2nd October 2009
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Or a little dig at Teflonso perhaps?

(Editted to say, not that he won his titles by dirty tricks, but he's not a very "whiter than white" world champion)

Edited by Miss Pitstop on Friday 2nd October 18:22

Ian Davidson

4,506 posts

225 months

Friday 2nd October 2009
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He's always been very polite and comes across as a true gent. Could probably do with being more aggressive at times, but then that would not suit his laid back style of driving. Basically, he isn't the type of driver who would drive someone off the road for the win. I'm not saying that's a plus point, I have respect for drivers who will and won't resort to filth to get what they want.

I don't think he'll need to resort to dirty games anyway, he got the job done in the first 7 races when everyone else was trying to find their feet. Good luck to him.

deadslow

8,788 posts

252 months

Friday 2nd October 2009
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Miss Pitstop said:
Or a little dig at Teflonso perhaps?

(Editted to say, not that he won his titles by dirty tricks, but he's not a very "whiter than white" world champion)

Edited by Miss Pitstop on Friday 2nd October 18:22
Doubt any of the modern champions are 'whiter than white'.

HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

211 months

Friday 2nd October 2009
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Miss Pitstop said:
Or a little dig at Teflonso perhaps?

(Editted to say, not that he won his titles by dirty tricks, but he's not a very "whiter than white" world champion)

Edited by Miss Pitstop on Friday 2nd October 18:22
You racist.

GingerWizard

4,721 posts

227 months

Friday 2nd October 2009
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Either of the Brawns i would be happy. It would be great to see Rubens finish his career with a flourish, so deserved after a career in the shadows of excellence, (what a gracious team mate to schumacher!). However i so desperatly hope Button makes that leap into the GB F1 Grandprix hall of fame as a WDC. I fear it may be his only shot, and I could'nt stand another near miss us Brits are so good at.....

Come on Jenson, keep it together, nice and tidy. You dont have to win tomorrow, just top 6 will do..... keep that pressure on....

  • (i've got 20 notes on at 50:1 bet last november so i need the result! ha!)

deadslow

8,788 posts

252 months

Friday 2nd October 2009
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He wont need to resort to dirty tricks. He ended up in the best car by a mile at the beginning of the season. He won a lot of races against slower cars.

The field caught up.

He has st his pants since through every race weekend.

He is far enough ahead to scrape past the post.

Nice guy. Not WDC material.

kiteless

12,557 posts

233 months

Friday 2nd October 2009
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deadslow said:
Doubt any of the modern champions are 'whiter than white'.
That's a bold statement.


deadslow

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Friday 2nd October 2009
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kiteless said:
deadslow said:
Doubt any of the modern champions are 'whiter than white'.
That's a bold statement.
And that statement invites the challenge 'name your white knight'.

PhillipM

6,559 posts

218 months

Friday 2nd October 2009
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kiteless said:
deadslow said:
Doubt any of the modern champions are 'whiter than white'.
That's a bold statement.
Surely we'd spot any foul play on the Ariel cameras?

kiteless

12,557 posts

233 months

Friday 2nd October 2009
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deadslow said:
And that statement invites the challenge 'name your white knight'.
OK.

But which year would you stipulate as the start of the "modern" F1 era? It'd be no good me naming Jochen Rindt as a "white knight" (for example - I may be wrong) if your baseline year is - say - 1980.




AndrewW-G

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246 months

Friday 2nd October 2009
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why not classify modern F1 era as the time after significant change, I'd suggest one of the following a: introduction of semi auto gearboxes b: ban on turbos c: introduction of Carbon / composite tubs.

The last white knight would I'd guess be Hakkinen, certainly not anybody in this century

Ganglandboss

8,547 posts

232 months

Saturday 3rd October 2009
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deadslow said:
Doubt any of the modern champions are 'whiter than white'.
Is that a dig at Lewis? wink

kiteless

12,557 posts

233 months

Saturday 3rd October 2009
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AndrewW-G said:
why not classify modern F1 era as the time after significant change, I'd suggest one of the following a: introduction of semi auto gearboxes b: ban on turbos c: introduction of Carbon / composite tubs.
So 1989 defines the start of the "modern" F1 era? I'd go with that.


Jungles

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250 months

Saturday 3rd October 2009
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AndrewW-G said:
The last white knight would I'd guess be Hakkinen, certainly not anybody in this century
I'd say even Hakkinen wasn't "whiter than white", due to McLaren team orders (even if they deny it).

My pick would be Damon Hill.

elster

17,517 posts

239 months

Saturday 3rd October 2009
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deadslow said:
Nice guy. Not WDC material.
I'll take a wager on that one.

£1 says he is WDC material and will be a WDC.

Ian Davidson

4,506 posts

225 months

Saturday 3rd October 2009
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deadslow said:
He wont need to resort to dirty tricks. He ended up in the best car by a mile at the beginning of the season. He won a lot of races against slower cars.

The field caught up.

He has st his pants since through every race weekend.

He is far enough ahead to scrape past the post.

Nice guy. Not WDC material.
I think there are a lot of highly informed people in the sport, who would strongly object to the content of that post.