Kamui Kobayashi
Kamui Kobayashi
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norman156

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2,097 posts

225 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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So, what do we think? Very impressive drive for a rookie, would love to see him get a seat for next year. Obviously needs to clean up his act a bit, though it was amusing to see Button describe him as 'crazy'

IforB

9,840 posts

258 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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Get him in a car for next year. We need a nutcase Japanese driver in F1.

R360

4,504 posts

235 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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Think the guy did a great job, especially when compared to the other rookies. I am looking forward to seeing more of him next season, the guy has some balls!

Project 644

37,069 posts

217 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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I think on the whole he did well. His move on Nakajima was not OK but no worse than Webber and Raikkonen on the first lap. If Toyota are in F1 next year, I can see no reason why they would not take him as a full time race driver. If Glock is OK for Abu Dhabi, I would be demoting Trulli to the sidelines after his little outburst and giving Kobayashi the drive. they have nothing to lose from it.

FNG

4,741 posts

253 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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Well, he said "a bit crazy".

Think he's done the best job a rookie could hope for - a good showing, fought his corner, didn't roll over when the quick guys put the pressure on. He should get a seat next season, best rookie showing for a while.

He certainly wasn't scared of going side-by-side through Turn 2 and if he hadn't moved over on Nakajima I think that would have been a thoroughly impressive debut. Shouldn't have weaved, though (mind you Webber did the same to Kimi, just with less serious consequences).

Jasandjules

72,584 posts

258 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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Think he put up a bit of a fight. Which is exactly what they should be doing. It's called racing after all. Perhaps the odd dodgy move.......

Wanta996Gotta

5,622 posts

236 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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R360 said:
Think the guy did a great job, especially when compared to the other rookies. I am looking forward to seeing more of him next season, the guy has some balls!
Good point and makes Fisi's performances in a Ferrari look even more pathetic. How many laps in total including testing,qualifying and the races has he now spent in that car? The guy has been a major disapointment.

Marcia

5,099 posts

219 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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I was very impressed at how long he managed to hold off JB,good luck to him,hope he gets a drive next year,he's shown he's already a more competant driver than his fellow jap,nakajima.

Mini1275

11,098 posts

211 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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A very good driver, needs to calm down a bit. There were a few moves that he shouldnt do in F1 but overall Very Very good......imho

CampDavid

9,145 posts

227 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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I think that's screwed the chances of Glock being retained next year, a shame as I rate "Timmo" as the Jordan boys called him.

Kobayashi did a solid job. Not as quick as he could have been, he's clearly trying to take Jarnos place as the leader of the Trulli Train (the Kobayashi Convoy?) and he needs to have a word with himself with regard to blocking, he was a little naughty with JB and probably deserves a slap on the wrist for taking the Williams out. Solid performance though. Not sure how many miles he did over the winter but certainly did a good job in a difficult situation.

I don't think we should be comparing him to Fisi though. Giani has had a 'mare in the Ferrari but I get the feeling that car is a total hound to drive. The Toyota has a weeker engine and no KERS however it looks like it's got a decent, balanced chassis underneath it. Fisi just hasn't been able to get his head round the Fez at all.

Wanta996Gotta

5,622 posts

236 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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CampDavid said:
I think that's screwed the chances of Glock being retained next year, a shame as I rate "Timmo" as the Jordan boys called him.

Kobayashi did a solid job. Not as quick as he could have been, he's clearly trying to take Jarnos place as the leader of the Trulli Train (the Kobayashi Convoy?) and he needs to have a word with himself with regard to blocking, he was a little naughty with JB and probably deserves a slap on the wrist for taking the Williams out. Solid performance though. Not sure how many miles he did over the winter but certainly did a good job in a difficult situation.

I don't think we should be comparing him to Fisi though. Giani has had a 'mare in the Ferrari but I get the feeling that car is a total hound to drive. The Toyota has a weeker engine and no KERS however it looks like it's got a decent, balanced chassis underneath it. Fisi just hasn't been able to get his head round the Fez at all.
Looks at the facts - this kid has not been in that car since before the season started so has no idea of what changes have been since he last sat in it. Fisi has had more than enough time in that Ferrari to show improvements - this Kid jumps into a Toyota and shows Fisi how to drive a car that you may not be familier with.

Fisi has no excuses whatsoever

garycat

5,377 posts

239 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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CampDavid said:
I think that's screwed the chances of Glock being retained next year, a shame as I rate "Timmo" as the Jordan boys called him.
I thought they called him Tim O'Glock.

Marcia

5,099 posts

219 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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garycat said:
CampDavid said:
I think that's screwed the chances of Glock being retained next year, a shame as I rate "Timmo" as the Jordan boys called him.
I thought they called him Tim O'Glock.
No,Timo Glock

Edited by Marcia on Monday 19th October 11:45

Project 644

37,069 posts

217 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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garycat said:
CampDavid said:
I think that's screwed the chances of Glock being retained next year, a shame as I rate "Timmo" as the Jordan boys called him.
I thought they called him Tim O'Glock.
yes

jamieboy

5,929 posts

258 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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CampDavid said:
I don't think we should be comparing him to Fisi though. Giani has had a 'mare in the Ferrari but I get the feeling that car is a total hound to drive.
yes I'm sure Domenicali said as much in an interview. Okay, he didn't say "it's a total hound", but he said as close to that as a team manager could get away with. smile

I was quite impressed with Kobayashi, but as others have said he needs to be careful about being defensive vs being dangerous.

matt frost

783 posts

280 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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In the delayed quali on saturday the director of Toyota F1 said they are talking to a couple of drivers about next year but will see how Kobayashi does in the race and I thought he did fantastic.

He was really racing from the off, not giving anyone respect like Grosjean and Alguesari do. He held off Button for a long time considering it was his first race, he was in a slower car and was running more fuel too. He was actually leaving Button at one point. I don't think he was too illegal with his moves with Button, I didn't see anything bad, I think it was more of a case of Button getting frustrated at not being able to get past.

I think they would be mad not to sign him and if Toyota don't, hopefully someone else will.

fivesixseven8

6,146 posts

256 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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I think Kobayashi did a serling job yesterday. A bit too much moving around under braking but the bloke must have secured himself a 2010 seat with that performance.

130R

7,080 posts

235 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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He did a very good job overall but that move on Nakajima was flat out dangerous.

Project 644

37,069 posts

217 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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130R said:
He did a very good job overall but that move on Nakajima was flat out dangerous.
Pretty much the same as Webber's move on Raikkonen except Raikkonen backed off and Nakajima kept his foot in.

Borderline at best.

Cara van man

29,977 posts

280 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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i thought he was extremely entertaining, if not a little psychotic.