Unrest at Brawn - Already!
Unrest at Brawn - Already!
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Wanta996Gotta

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5,622 posts

236 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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Story in Planet F1 with regards to Telegraph claims so take it with pinch of salt but still interesting

They may have just wrapped up the double in their debut season, but all is not well in the Brawn GP camp, according to a report.

Jenson Button sealed his maiden Drivers' Championship in Brazil on Sunday while the team won the Constructors' trophy in their first year under the Brawn banner.

The Briton's though is yet to sign a new deal with the team for the 2010 season and he is unhappy with the offer on the table as it's "only marginally higher" than his current deal.

Button is apparently not the only one unhappy at Brawn and morale among staff at the Brackley factory is not what it should be for a team who just won two trophies.

The Telegraph claims that 'Button is not the only malcontent. A number of senior engineering staff are said to be upset over bonus arrangements.

'News of the discontent at Brawn has filtered down the pit lane prompting rival teams, including Red Bull, McLaren and Ferrari, to attempt to lure the top brains behind the championship-winning car with lucrative job offers.'

Brawn chief executive Nick Fry, though, insists he is unaware of any unhappiness in the camp.

"No one has said anything to me about this," Fry told the paper. "I am extremely surprised. We will look into any concerns that people have, though I am not aware of any. As far as we are concerned these are internal matters but if there is an issue with anybody we are quite happy to talk to them about it.

"Salary negotiation is not something we do in public. However I will say that any and all contractual bonuses will of course be paid. We will be sitting down with Jenson after Abu Dhabi to discuss his contract."

fivesixseven8

6,146 posts

256 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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Do people even read PF1 anymore? It's the F1 equivalent of The News of the World. Sounds like a story from nothing, no quotes, just rumour.

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

279 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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I guess it'd be a pretty quiet site if there was only factual things reported smile


fivesixseven8

6,146 posts

256 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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TonyHetherington said:
I guess it'd be a pretty quiet site if there was only factual things reported smile
True. Do the Telegraph journo's travel out to the GP's? Joe Saward has made a few comments recently digging at those who stay at home and just make stuff up or rehash old news.

MGJohn

10,203 posts

212 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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Head hunting and Key Staff poaching is nothing new.... is always so and even moreso in F1. Consider all the key F1 staff shuffles over the years. I wonder if anyone will tempt Ross Brawn away with an "Offer he can't refuse"....... He'd be a huge asset in any team and his record, both past and present is Nulli secondus........ biggrin
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garycat

5,382 posts

239 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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fivesixseven8 said:
TonyHetherington said:
I guess it'd be a pretty quiet site if there was only factual things reported smile
True. Do the Telegraph journo's travel out to the GP's? Joe Saward has made a few comments recently digging at those who stay at home and just make stuff up or rehash old news.
Commonly known as "Churnalism"

Fire99

9,865 posts

258 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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'Quiet news day' springs to mind.
Both Championships have been wrapped up so the last race is just going to be a race.

Other than waiting for the FIA election and waiting for news of Driver contracts, we're a bit hypeless after Button doing the unexpected last weekend.


Leithen

13,994 posts

296 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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They're not helping themselves by still employing Fry though....

Fire99

9,865 posts

258 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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Leithen said:
They're not helping themselves by still employing Fry though....
What's up with him? Seems a nice chap.

Project 644

37,069 posts

217 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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Fire99 said:
Leithen said:
They're not helping themselves by still employing Fry though....
What's up with him? Seems a nice chap.
He seems like a totally different person now that he is not fronting the team. He still gurns, but he has relaxed alot.

FNG

4,744 posts

253 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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Wanta996Gotta said:
The Briton's though is yet to sign a new deal with the team for the 2010 season and he is unhappy with the offer on the table as it's "only marginally higher" than his current deal.
Anyone who hasn't signed a contract and is negotiating for more than the offered remuneration is by default unhappy with the offer or they wouldn't be negotiating.

This is old news, it was doing the rounds 2 weeks ago.

Get Karter

1,950 posts

230 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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I wouldn't be 100% surprised if Brawn didn't re-sign Button.

I guess it depends on the balance of finances. How much can Button bring in attracting team sponsorship, versus other available drivers? And what is the salary:sponsorship cost:revenue to Brawn of the various driver options?

Brawn will be on their own next season as a small self funding team for the first time. They need to get their finances right before they can throw money at big name drivers.....and that might include Button if he prices himself out of the seat!

Ralf Rockefeller

1,597 posts

206 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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Get Karter said:
I wouldn't be 100% surprised if Brawn didn't re-sign Button.

I guess it depends on the balance of finances. How much can Button bring in attracting team sponsorship, versus other available drivers? And what is the salary:sponsorship cost:revenue to Brawn of the various driver options?

Brawn will be on their own next season as a small self funding team for the first time. They need to get their finances right before they can throw money at big name drivers.....and that might include Button if he prices himself out of the seat!
They have Merc boosting their finances. No problems on the cash side, its just a cash of much they want to pay JB.

Sir Bagalot

7,088 posts

210 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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anonymous said:
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Not just a rumour. He was on £8M and had to drop to £3M

Jasandjules

72,588 posts

258 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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Sir Bagalot said:
Not just a rumour. He was on £8M and had to drop to £3M
Poor lad, who can survive on such a pittance................

TimR69

2,505 posts

256 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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Jasandjules said:
Sir Bagalot said:
Not just a rumour. He was on £8M and had to drop to £3M
Poor lad, who can survive on such a pittance................
He should've taken up football.


Get Karter

1,950 posts

230 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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Ralf Rockefeller said:
Get Karter said:
I wouldn't be 100% surprised if Brawn didn't re-sign Button.

I guess it depends on the balance of finances. How much can Button bring in attracting team sponsorship, versus other available drivers? And what is the salary:sponsorship cost:revenue to Brawn of the various driver options?

Brawn will be on their own next season as a small self funding team for the first time. They need to get their finances right before they can throw money at big name drivers.....and that might include Button if he prices himself out of the seat!
They have Merc boosting their finances. No problems on the cash side, its just a cash of much they want to pay JB.
How much are Merc going to pay Brawn to use their engines?

Ralf Rockefeller

1,597 posts

206 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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How much are Merc going to pay Brawn to use their engines?
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Not much, if at all, when Rosberg gets taken on, and Merc buy in smile

Get Karter

1,950 posts

230 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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So Ross is selling equity in Brawn GP. Controlling stake?
End of Brawn as a team?

Edited by Get Karter on Thursday 22 October 13:48

BERGS2

2,839 posts

277 months

Thursday 22nd October 2009
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Get Karter said:
I wouldn't be 100% surprised if Brawn didn't re-sign Button.

I guess it depends on the balance of finances. How much can Button bring in attracting team sponsorship, versus other available drivers? And what is the salary:sponsorship cost:revenue to Brawn of the various driver options?

Brawn will be on their own next season as a small self funding team for the first time. They need to get their finances right before they can throw money at big name drivers.....and that might include Button if he prices himself out of the seat!
didnt this happen with Hill after he won the championship with Williams?

drove for Arrows IIRC & won in Hungary....