Kimi says McLaren only option
Kimi says McLaren only option
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Scooby_snax

Original Poster:

1,279 posts

283 months

Syndrome

892 posts

203 months

Thursday 29th October 2009
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I think he'll leave F1 this year.

llewop

3,958 posts

240 months

Thursday 29th October 2009
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Syndrome said:
I think he'll leave F1 this year.
sounds good to me!

_dobbo_

14,619 posts

277 months

Thursday 29th October 2009
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I'd love to see Kimi in a car alongside Hamilton, so he can prove (or not) whether he's as good as some people think he is.

Personally I think he's a great driver, and will be a loss to the sport.


Wanta996Gotta

5,622 posts

236 months

Thursday 29th October 2009
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llewop said:
Syndrome said:
I think he'll leave F1 this year.
sounds good to me!
Me too, dont get me wrong, i would have liked him at Mclaren but his money grabbing antics show him up for what he really is. You would think he would want to take the Mclaren seat at any cost and test himself against Lewis while trying to prove Ferrari wrong.

spend

12,581 posts

280 months

Thursday 29th October 2009
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If people didn't think Hamilton proved his credentials in his first season,then they would still be doubting it even if he trounced, Schumi, Fangio and Jesus himself...

Greeny

1,423 posts

288 months

Thursday 29th October 2009
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spend said:
If people didn't think Hamilton proved his credentials in his first season,then they would still be doubting it even if he trounced, Schumi, Fangio and Jesus himself...
agreed clap

belleair302

7,008 posts

236 months

Thursday 29th October 2009
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The problem for Kimi is the number of sponsor events both at races and away from the track that McLaren want! Many moons ago I did events with DC and MH...across the world and between races there was more going on than there was testing and driving.

McLaren really give their 'Top Level Partners' good driver access for TV commercials, conferences, events / PR appearances and the suchlike.

Kimi does not do these well and it is a massive stumbling block regarding his relationship with a very media savvy McLaren.

bikemonster

1,188 posts

270 months

Thursday 29th October 2009
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spend said:
If people didn't think Hamilton proved his credentials in his first season,then they would still be doubting it even if he trounced, Schumi, Fangio and Jesus himself...
The first two were greats, I'll grant you. But the other guy? He never really achieved results. And as far as I know, only ever went in for racing classics, rather than top flight stuff.

I heard he came 4th.

In his Triumph.

getmecoat

groomi

9,331 posts

272 months

Thursday 29th October 2009
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bikemonster said:
spend said:
If people didn't think Hamilton proved his credentials in his first season,then they would still be doubting it even if he trounced, Schumi, Fangio and Jesus himself...
The first two were greats, I'll grant you. But the other guy? He never really achieved results. And as far as I know, only ever went in for racing classics, rather than top flight stuff.

I heard he came 4th.

In his Triumph.

getmecoat
I wish Senna could make such a good comeback though...

SamHH

5,078 posts

245 months

Thursday 29th October 2009
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Wanta996Gotta said:
Me too, dont get me wrong, i would have liked him at Mclaren but his money grabbing antics show him up for what he really is. You would think he would want to take the Mclaren seat at any cost and test himself against Lewis while trying to prove Ferrari wrong.
Money grabbing antics? What has he been doing?

spend

12,581 posts

280 months

Thursday 29th October 2009
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groomi said:
bikemonster said:
spend said:
If people didn't think Hamilton proved his credentials in his first season,then they would still be doubting it even if he trounced, Schumi, Fangio and Jesus himself...
The first two were greats, I'll grant you. But the other guy? He never really achieved results. And as far as I know, only ever went in for racing classics, rather than top flight stuff.

I heard he came 4th.

In his Triumph.

getmecoat
I wish Senna could make such a good comeback though...
If Schumi does make his prancing pony comeback, you can guarantee it will be like the second coming to the Romans...

...but will it be deification or crucifixion????? evilhehe

elster

17,517 posts

239 months

Thursday 29th October 2009
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SamHH said:
Wanta996Gotta said:
Me too, dont get me wrong, i would have liked him at Mclaren but his money grabbing antics show him up for what he really is. You would think he would want to take the Mclaren seat at any cost and test himself against Lewis while trying to prove Ferrari wrong.
Money grabbing antics? What has he been doing?
Nothing. He told Toyota their offer wasn't enough.

If they offer him £50million he would still say it wasn't enough if he wants to race for Mclaren.

The journos can make 1 + 1 = 7. The facts are still the 1 + 1 part.

C Lee Farquar

4,229 posts

245 months

Thursday 29th October 2009
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I recall Senna was quite forceful about money, holding out to the last minute before a race to get the money he wanted.

zac510

5,546 posts

235 months

Thursday 29th October 2009
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Senna offered to drive for Williams for free at one point smile

Rex Ironstone

1,130 posts

219 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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bikemonster said:
spend said:
If people didn't think Hamilton proved his credentials in his first season,then they would still be doubting it even if he trounced, Schumi, Fangio and Jesus himself...
The first two were greats, I'll grant you. But the other guy? He never really achieved results. And as far as I know, only ever went in for racing classics, rather than top flight stuff.

I heard he came 4th.

In his Triumph.

getmecoat
Yeah Jesus was overated.


matt frost

783 posts

280 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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Wanta996Gotta said:
llewop said:
Syndrome said:
I think he'll leave F1 this year.
sounds good to me!
Me too, dont get me wrong, i would have liked him at Mclaren but his money grabbing antics show him up for what he really is. You would think he would want to take the Mclaren seat at any cost and test himself against Lewis while trying to prove Ferrari wrong.
How do you know he won't take one at any cost? You don't, so stop going on and on until we know. He may well take it at any cost but may be trying to get the highest wage possible with certain quotes and tactics you hear. As said before, what is wrong with that?

Maybe you go to view a car you want to buy and are happy to pay the asking price before any haggling, but most people view a car, try to haggle the price to a price they would prefer to buy it at, but know if they can't get anything off it, they will take it anyway.

Wanta996Gotta

5,622 posts

236 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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matt frost said:
Wanta996Gotta said:
llewop said:
Syndrome said:
I think he'll leave F1 this year.
sounds good to me!
Me too, dont get me wrong, i would have liked him at Mclaren but his money grabbing antics show him up for what he really is. You would think he would want to take the Mclaren seat at any cost and test himself against Lewis while trying to prove Ferrari wrong.
How do you know he won't take one at any cost? You don't, so stop going on and on until we know. He may well take it at any cost but may be trying to get the highest wage possible with certain quotes and tactics you hear. As said before, what is wrong with that?

Maybe you go to view a car you want to buy and are happy to pay the asking price before any haggling, but most people view a car, try to haggle the price to a price they would prefer to buy it at, but know if they can't get anything off it, they will take it anyway.
Take your blinkers off, Kimi should take what he is getting offered and be gratefull that he is being given a chance in a WDC winning car in 2010 - We all know Kimi is wanting a big pay day, the following comments from Haug give you an idea of whats going on :-

"Kimi is an option, but there are lots of options around," Haug told AUTOSPORT. "One thing is for sure though - guys who are out for money are not the right ones for us - whoever it may be.

"I won't name anyone, but we want to have full commitment from someone who is success-oriented, not someone saying 'I am a big name, pay me a lot of money and I will drive for you.'

SamHH

5,078 posts

245 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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Wanta996Gotta said:
Take your blinkers off, Kimi should take what he is getting offered and be gratefull that he is being given a chance in a WDC winning car in 2010 - We all know Kimi is wanting a big pay day, the following comments from Haug give you an idea of whats going on :-

"Kimi is an option, but there are lots of options around," Haug told AUTOSPORT. "One thing is for sure though - guys who are out for money are not the right ones for us - whoever it may be.

"I won't name anyone, but we want to have full commitment from someone who is success-oriented, not someone saying 'I am a big name, pay me a lot of money and I will drive for you.'
Are there any F1 drivers who drive for free? I thought they all try to negotiate the best deal they can?

Wanta996Gotta

5,622 posts

236 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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SamHH said:
Wanta996Gotta said:
Take your blinkers off, Kimi should take what he is getting offered and be gratefull that he is being given a chance in a WDC winning car in 2010 - We all know Kimi is wanting a big pay day, the following comments from Haug give you an idea of whats going on :-

"Kimi is an option, but there are lots of options around," Haug told AUTOSPORT. "One thing is for sure though - guys who are out for money are not the right ones for us - whoever it may be.

"I won't name anyone, but we want to have full commitment from someone who is success-oriented, not someone saying 'I am a big name, pay me a lot of money and I will drive for you.'
Are there any F1 drivers who drive for free? I thought they all try to negotiate the best deal they can?
Who mentioned driving for free?