Eddie Jordan - poppy
Eddie Jordan - poppy
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norwichsam

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38 posts

235 months

Sunday 1st November 2009
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Ok I don't want to get all political but is it really below Eddie Jordan to wear a poppy, in rememberance of British soldiers who have lost their lives? Especially as working for the BRITISH broadcasting corporation. I think not wearing one either yesterday or today smacks of trying to make a political statement and it just doen't show EJ in a good light, without the sacrifices of many british servicemen and women Eddie may well have not enjoyed the freedom to live the life of international motorsport that he has.

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

260 months

Sunday 1st November 2009
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1) you did mean to get all politcal
2) IMHO they should be worn from 1st Nov to the 11th, so yesterday isnt an issue

agree it should be worn today and onwards

Eric Mc

125,607 posts

294 months

Sunday 1st November 2009
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It might not have crossed his mind?

To be honest, I think Poppy wearing starts too early these days (like Christmas, Easter etc). There seems to be a "who'll be first to wear a Poppy competition" in the media.

(I'll be wearing one next weekend - at the appopriate time).


Edited by Eric Mc on Sunday 1st November 12:23

mrmr96

13,736 posts

233 months

Sunday 1st November 2009
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I wouldn't worry about it too much.

DWP

1,232 posts

244 months

Sunday 1st November 2009
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norwichsam said:
Ok I don't want to get all political but is it really below Eddie Jordan to wear a poppy, in rememberance of British soldiers who have lost their lives? Especially as working for the BRITISH broadcasting corporation. I think not wearing one either yesterday or today smacks of trying to make a political statement and it just doen't show EJ in a good light, without the sacrifices of many british servicemen and women Eddie may well have not enjoyed the freedom to live the life of international motorsport that he has.
I wear a poppy, but part of me is with Jon Snow who refuses to wear one, on Tv, on the grounds it's now part of the PC overview, for Tv presenters, that Poppies MUST be worn. I've seen the wardrobe team on shows, with the box of poppies for presenters who take them off when they leave the studio. I'm sure Eddie has his own reasons for not wearing one. Respect a different view.

Edited by DWP on Sunday 1st November 12:27

agent006

12,058 posts

293 months

Sunday 1st November 2009
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Why does it matter?

I'd rather he made a decision to not wear one than wear one as a hollow gesture just because that's what's expected of him. It's also worth remembering that freedom of expression and conduct is what was fought for.

Piglet

6,250 posts

284 months

Sunday 1st November 2009
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I hate this bloody argument.

Why does it matter whether someone wears a poppy or not? It's what you believe in and what you support day in and day out that matters and just wearing a badge once a year doesn't mean someone is more supportive.

It's a token gesture that is made by many people who have no interest in what actually sits behind just wearing a poppy.

elster

17,517 posts

239 months

Sunday 1st November 2009
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norwichsam said:
Ok I don't want to get all political but is it really below Eddie Jordan to wear a poppy, in rememberance of British soldiers who have lost their lives? Especially as working for the BRITISH broadcasting corporation. I think not wearing one either yesterday or today smacks of trying to make a political statement and it just doen't show EJ in a good light, without the sacrifices of many british servicemen and women Eddie may well have not enjoyed the freedom to live the life of international motorsport that he has.
Why must he show you that he supports the British Legion by buying a poppy.

As I said before I will be at a Remembrance service, I have no need to flaunt my donating ability by wearing a poppy for a few months.

Chocmonster

962 posts

240 months

Sunday 1st November 2009
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Are you expecting all of the British people who work for the teams to be wearing a poppy too? Somehow I don't think a bit of paper and plastic would would go well on a flameproof firesuit.

In Eddies case I wonder if it's anything to do with being Irish, do Eire have the same tradition?

Eric Mc

125,607 posts

294 months

Sunday 1st November 2009
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Chocmonster said:
Are you expecting all of the British people who work for the teams to be wearing a poppy too? Somehow I don't think a bit of paper and plastic would would go well on a flameproof firesuit.

In Eddies case I wonder if it's anything to do with being Irish, do Eire have the same tradition?
This was covered in the Lounge or News Forums (I forget which).

After WW1, the wearing of Poppies in Ireland was encouraged - but the anti-British sentiment was running high so many people chose not to wear them at the time. After independence in 1922, the wearing of the Poppy became a nich activity. Many people were afraid to wear them for fear of abuse or even worse. However, the Royal British Legion remained active in Ireland right up top the present day and Poppies have always been available for those who wanted to wear them.

The atitude in Ireland is far more relaxed now, with official government involvement in remembrance celebrations (only since 1994). So, I would say more people might wear them in Ireland nowadays.

For the record, my mother ALWAYS made sure she bought a poppy in Dublin.

rocket

1,282 posts

313 months

Sunday 1st November 2009
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EJ is however wearing a Help For Heroes band thumbup

Steve748

8,542 posts

213 months

Sunday 1st November 2009
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It is quite possible either he has not been back to blighty to pick one up or he forgot to get one on the way out. If the TV producers had been on the ball they would have taken some extra ones out. Was Ross Braun or other people they interviewed wearing a poppy?

Nigel Worc's

8,121 posts

217 months

Sunday 1st November 2009
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Piglet said:
I hate this bloody argument.

Why does it matter whether someone wears a poppy or not? It's what you believe in and what you support day in and day out that matters and just wearing a badge once a year doesn't mean someone is more supportive.

It's a token gesture that is made by many people who have no interest in what actually sits behind just wearing a poppy.
I'm with this man

I also choose to wear my "ex" badge quite a lot, I also know those that just wear them on special occasions, and those that have never taken the badge out of its presentation box.

Those that have perished are gone, they have enabled those of us left to make our own minds up.

Shaw Tarse

31,887 posts

232 months

Sunday 1st November 2009
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rocket said:
EJ is however wearing a Help For Heroes band thumbup
I missed that redface

Shaw Tarse

31,887 posts

232 months

Sunday 1st November 2009
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randlemarcus said:
1) you did mean to get all politcal
2) IMHO they should be worn from 1st Nov to the 11th, so yesterday isnt an issue

agree it should be worn today and onwards
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Complex

520 posts

204 months

Sunday 1st November 2009
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Big deal.

IforB

9,840 posts

258 months

Monday 2nd November 2009
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norwichsam said:
Ok I don't want to get all political but is it really below Eddie Jordan to wear a poppy, in rememberance of British soldiers who have lost their lives? Especially as working for the BRITISH broadcasting corporation. I think not wearing one either yesterday or today smacks of trying to make a political statement and it just doen't show EJ in a good light, without the sacrifices of many british servicemen and women Eddie may well have not enjoyed the freedom to live the life of international motorsport that he has.
This must be the most pointless rant of the year. Total and utter nonsense.

cragswinter

21,429 posts

225 months

Monday 2nd November 2009
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Should we not be discussing why ej is recieving lisence payers money for his irrelevent & useless views.the mans a tool!

Oh & by the way why does he pronounce it "saferty car"?????

Eric Mc

125,607 posts

294 months

Monday 2nd November 2009
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He's Irish.

People pronounce English in different ways depending on where they come from. I think it's referred to as an "accent".

I actually enjoy EJ's contributions.

TV is great for generating "hate" and "vitriol" of a person. It's only a TV show - at the end of the day.

Edited by Eric Mc on Monday 2nd November 09:30

Hugo a Gogo

23,437 posts

262 months

Monday 2nd November 2009
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i hate this about TV in the UK, everyone HAS to be seen to be wearing a poppy at this time of the year, often even if the show is prerecorded or if they've just flown in from wherever

cheapens the whole thing

wear one if you want, don't try and force everyone to wear one all the time, that makes it meaningless