Walter Rohrl onboard - rally at the Nordschleife
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... in reverse
... in the wet
... with snow on the side of the track
... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnKARl8HJjY
... in the wet
... with snow on the side of the track
... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnKARl8HJjY
Edited by Jungles on Wednesday 11th November 04:40
That is taken from this DVD:
"Walter Röhrl im Porsche 911"
available from
http://www.gelee-deluxe.com/
It is really excellent.
I seem to have loaned out my copy! I wonder who to. Bugger!
"Walter Röhrl im Porsche 911"
available from
http://www.gelee-deluxe.com/
It is really excellent.
I seem to have loaned out my copy! I wonder who to. Bugger!
Always been a fan of Walter's, he is one of the greats. That video was a lot of fun, working out in my head what was coming next knowing the track well from the usual direction. It's a shame you don't get the sensation of the gradients much on video, knowing what they are like gives a much better insight into what the car is about to do and how he can get away with being so aggressive some times. Great stuff.
Great driving by a great guy!
I managed to have a good chat with Walter at Goodwood about his Audi days and his fastest lap at Goodwood (track) in a Carrera GT. He made time for everyone.
With reference to his Monte Carlo win in 1984 at the same Goodwood weekend Blomqvist suggested he was told (by Gumpert) to let Walter win the event(his first Quattro drive) and the championship was his...
Could it be true?
I managed to have a good chat with Walter at Goodwood about his Audi days and his fastest lap at Goodwood (track) in a Carrera GT. He made time for everyone.
With reference to his Monte Carlo win in 1984 at the same Goodwood weekend Blomqvist suggested he was told (by Gumpert) to let Walter win the event(his first Quattro drive) and the championship was his...
Could it be true?
git!! what a fabulous video. isnt it great to see a race driver using a clutch & a manual gearbox? oversteer. how many of todays race drivers know how to handle that? not many as it rarely happens.
wouldnt it be good to see the fia ban all driver 'aids' - such as sequential gearboxes, flappy paddles, etc & insist that all race & rally cars have three pedals - clutch, brake & accelerator - & a proper manual gearbox.
that would sort the men from the boys wouldnt it?
& on the subject of the ring - why does it look so easy on the video? i have spent hours on my xbox with forza motorsport 3 trying to learn the ring in a variety of road & race cars.
can i get it right? can i hell!!! its so bloody difficult. true respect to anyone who can master the real thing. i did a few laps 5 years ago. scared the living crap out of me. awesome place to which i need to make a return journey.
walter rohl - genius. porsche 911 - stunning. in my opinion the greatest car to be built. ever.
wouldnt it be good to see the fia ban all driver 'aids' - such as sequential gearboxes, flappy paddles, etc & insist that all race & rally cars have three pedals - clutch, brake & accelerator - & a proper manual gearbox.
that would sort the men from the boys wouldnt it?
& on the subject of the ring - why does it look so easy on the video? i have spent hours on my xbox with forza motorsport 3 trying to learn the ring in a variety of road & race cars.
can i get it right? can i hell!!! its so bloody difficult. true respect to anyone who can master the real thing. i did a few laps 5 years ago. scared the living crap out of me. awesome place to which i need to make a return journey.
walter rohl - genius. porsche 911 - stunning. in my opinion the greatest car to be built. ever.
As said, this is from a DVD, which I highly recommend watching, its about an hour in total.
I've watched the DVD dozens of times now, trying to learn as much as possible from it.
One thing I really want to get a hold of is substantial footage of this length/quality/setup/kind from the group B days. I know it exists. Probably most here have seen the onboard clips on youtube or other of Rohrl driving the audi quattro in portugal.
I can't for the life of me find an entire stage-worth of onboard though. Great though it is to watch, its much better when the perspective stays the same, you can then properly understand whats going on and really appreciate it.
edit: oh and guess who, at 62, very recently won a rally in a historic porsche?
I've watched the DVD dozens of times now, trying to learn as much as possible from it.
One thing I really want to get a hold of is substantial footage of this length/quality/setup/kind from the group B days. I know it exists. Probably most here have seen the onboard clips on youtube or other of Rohrl driving the audi quattro in portugal.
I can't for the life of me find an entire stage-worth of onboard though. Great though it is to watch, its much better when the perspective stays the same, you can then properly understand whats going on and really appreciate it.
edit: oh and guess who, at 62, very recently won a rally in a historic porsche?
Edited by MM2200 on Thursday 12th November 09:19
fatboy69 said:
git!! what a fabulous video. isnt it great to see a race driver using a clutch & a manual gearbox? oversteer. how many of todays race drivers know how to handle that? not many as it rarely happens.
The Australian V8 Supercars championship used cars with clutch pedals and H-pattern gearboxes until 2008. One of the very few top-flight championships to do so, I think.fatboy69 said:
on the subject of the ring - why does it look so easy on the video? i have spent hours on my xbox with forza motorsport 3 trying to learn the ring in a variety of road & race cars.
To be fair, Rohrl is one of the most experienced Ring drivers alive. He has done hundreds of laps there, perhaps even thousands.very impressive, it is the whole ring backwards? it may have changed over the years but to me it looks like it is parts of the ring (driven in reverse direction) joined up with the smaller link roads
I love watching the old footage, thank you
walter is a driving god
does he still work for porsche as a production car test driver?
some good vids
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8AzQolK_84
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyVHj3sHVHQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2tJ9uAbJIY
I love watching the old footage, thank you
walter is a driving god
does he still work for porsche as a production car test driver?
some good vids
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8AzQolK_84
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyVHj3sHVHQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2tJ9uAbJIY
Edited by y2blade on Thursday 12th November 07:49
Jungles said:
The Australian V8 Supercars championship used cars with clutch pedals and H-pattern gearboxes until 2008. One of the very few top-flight championships to do so, I think.
They still have clutches, and some of the lower-budget teams may still be using H-gates this year as well IIRC.Edited by GravelBen on Thursday 12th November 10:07
y2blade said:
very impressive, it is the whole ring backwards? it may have changed over the years but to me it looks like it is parts of the ring (driven in reverse direction) joined up with the smaller link roads
That's my theory too. There's a stretch at the beginning of the clip with white lines in the middle and some very tight lanes too so I don't think it's all the NordschleifeI know all those roads extremely well, the footage starts on what is normally public road, which i tend to use to warm the car up and cool it down between runs on the circuit. If you go out of the main public entrance to the circuit and turn right, follow that to the T junction then look left, thats where the little link road from the public road section onto the track is. So turning left at that T junction puts you on the public road that is used for the start section, but you are going in the opposite direction.
The link from the public road puts you onto the circuit at what is normally the exit of Galgenkopf, which is the start of the long straight of Dottinger Hohe.
Walter has done many thousands of laps of the 'ring testing the latest generation 911's, so i think you will struggle to find someone more suited to doing that run. I've always fancied having a run of the circuit backwards, it would make for a very different challenge, it would be damn quick going down Kesselchen, which is why they put the false chicane in, it's a real power section going up the usual direction.
The link from the public road puts you onto the circuit at what is normally the exit of Galgenkopf, which is the start of the long straight of Dottinger Hohe.
Walter has done many thousands of laps of the 'ring testing the latest generation 911's, so i think you will struggle to find someone more suited to doing that run. I've always fancied having a run of the circuit backwards, it would make for a very different challenge, it would be damn quick going down Kesselchen, which is why they put the false chicane in, it's a real power section going up the usual direction.
In fact he offered to let me have his copy (which I bought him).Forums | General Motorsport | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff