Will there be a 2010 Silverstone F1 GP?
Will there be a 2010 Silverstone F1 GP?
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rjnewman

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59 posts

232 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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Despite all the "Donnington is off" press it all seems to be very quite on the Silverstone front. Any one heard anything at all?

Would be interesting to know as I am sure we all need to planning next years holidays around these events!

Richard

Syndrome

892 posts

203 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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Bernies contract is on the BRDC table. It's not acceptable at the moment but the legal teams are on it. There should be an official announcement by the end of November.

HAZZAGTR

186 posts

202 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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Compare Donington to Abu Dhabi!

eccles

14,368 posts

251 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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HAZZAGTR said:
Compare Donington to Abu Dhabi!
Why?

jleroux

1,511 posts

289 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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HAZZAGTR said:
Compare Donington to Abu Dhabi!
no comparison. one of the all-time greatest race circuits, steeped in history, passion and loyalty vs a soulless display of wealth devoid of any real individuality.

a race circuit is not defined by it's value, facilities or number of light-bulbs!

Jonny
BaT

rjnewman

Original Poster:

59 posts

232 months

Thursday 12th November 2009
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Indee, I suspect Silverstones facilitis don't really compare to any of the new tracks. But deep down inside I like going as its all very British and I feel comfortable in familiar souroundings.

So who would go to the British GP if it was held in a brand new Tilke designed facility somewhere remote in the UK? Especially as it will have a ticket cost of thousands and absolutly no history. It just woudnt be cricket!


Jack Blag

941 posts

242 months

Thursday 12th November 2009
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The problem isn't the BRDC, it's Bernie. The (little) man is only interested in making money. As long as countries like Abu Dhabi will pay the race fees to stage a Grand Prix, Silverstone doesn't stand a chance. The race goes to the highest bidder.

He was happy to drop Montreal when they wouldn't pay up. Spa, Magny Cours and Hockenheim have all suffered too as a result of Bernie's insatiable greed for money.

I hope Bernie does the decent thing and agrees to a contract with Silverstone. It is after all the home of motorsport!

Eric Mc

125,609 posts

294 months

Thursday 12th November 2009
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There never has been a "Silverstone F1 GP". There has only ever been a British Grand Prix held at Silverstone. It may sound pedantic but GPs, by and large, are not officially called after the circuit they are held at - even if they are sometimes casually referred to in that way.

dpbird90

5,535 posts

219 months

Thursday 12th November 2009
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jleroux said:
HAZZAGTR said:
Compare Donington to Abu Dhabi!
no comparison. one of the all-time greatest race circuits, steeped in history, passion and loyalty vs a soulless display of wealth devoid of any real individuality.

a race circuit is not defined by it's value, facilities or number of light-bulbs!

Jonny
BaT
But sadly, Gillet has turned good old Donington into a building site. Still, sending the F1 cars out on a wrecked circuit with the spectators stuck in a huge mud bath would be much more entertaining to watch than seeing them drone endlessly round Abu Dhabi.

WRT Silverstone, it has to be done. It'd cause a national outrage otherwise; we have 2 British WDCs in the field, the WCC's are British, as are most of the teams. What I fail to understand is that Brown thinks that it's a good idea to pour billions into the Olympics, where we have no chance of doing well whatsoever, and won't even give 5p to Silverstone.

Long story short, given the choice; watch the Abu Dhabi race in absolute luxury in one of their hospitality suites while looking at the however many lightbulbs it was, whilst eating the finest meals etc, or stand around in a wet and windy airfield, freezing my balls off, and having been bumraped by the food vans for something barely classed as edible fish n chips. I'd be in the middle of the mudbath in a heartbeat.

spaximus

4,365 posts

282 months

Thursday 12th November 2009
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dpbird90 said:
jleroux said:
HAZZAGTR said:
Compare Donington to Abu Dhabi!
no comparison. one of the all-time greatest race circuits, steeped in history, passion and loyalty vs a soulless display of wealth devoid of any real individuality.

a race circuit is not defined by it's value, facilities or number of light-bulbs!

Jonny
BaT
But sadly, Gillet has turned good old Donington into a building site. Still, sending the F1 cars out on a wrecked circuit with the spectators stuck in a huge mud bath would be much more entertaining to watch than seeing them drone endlessly round Abu Dhabi.

WRT Silverstone, it has to be done. It'd cause a national outrage otherwise; we have 2 British WDCs in the field, the WCC's are British, as are most of the teams. What I fail to understand is that Brown thinks that it's a good idea to pour billions into the Olympics, where we have no chance of doing well whatsoever, and won't even give 5p to Silverstone.

Long story short, given the choice; watch the Abu Dhabi race in absolute luxury in one of their hospitality suites while looking at the however many lightbulbs it was, whilst eating the finest meals etc, or stand around in a wet and windy airfield, freezing my balls off, and having been bumraped by the food vans for something barely classed as edible fish n chips. I'd be in the middle of the mudbath in a heartbeat.
But the differance is that the olympic atheletes are all poor underprivilaged young working class kids from all around the world doing their best.
Motor racing promotes the car which we all know is responsible for all the kiddies in Africa dying and don't forget the polar bears as well. It is run by greedy coporations and multimillionaires so it will get nothing from this goverment.

hairyben

8,516 posts

212 months

Thursday 12th November 2009
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Probably not. Bernie want's $$££$€€$$$€€£££€££$ that silverstone don't have, other countries do.

Right now the only two historic racetracks who's future isn't in doubt are monza and monaco. monza because ferrari would threaten to walk if bernie took it, monaco cos it's the showpiece a lot of rich wkers care about.

Man-At-Arms

5,920 posts

208 months

Friday 13th November 2009
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Eric Mc said:
There has only ever been a British Grand Prix held at Silverstone.
has it ever been at Brands Hatch ?

brierleys

237 posts

211 months

Friday 13th November 2009
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These new circuits have grand hotels, but we have bunting. I like to think that sort of variety is appreciated around the world. We wouldn't want all the GPs looking the same, would we?

GAjon

4,081 posts

242 months

Friday 13th November 2009
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Man-At-Arms said:
Eric Mc said:
There has only ever been a British Grand Prix held at Silverstone.
has it ever been at Brands Hatch ?
Yes, and Aintree and Brooklands.

Donnington did the European GP.

Eric Mc

125,609 posts

294 months

Friday 13th November 2009
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Man-At-Arms said:
Eric Mc said:
There has only ever been a British Grand Prix held at Silverstone.
has it ever been at Brands Hatch ?
I wasn't excluding those either. It's just that there is no such thing as a "Silverstone GP".

Ironically, in pre-war days (before the whole F1 thing got going), the only truly international Grands Prix held in Britain were held at Donington and were called the "Donington GP" the two most notable being those of 1937 and 1938.

dougc

8,241 posts

294 months

Friday 13th November 2009
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brierleys said:
These new circuits have grand hotels, but we have bunting. I like to think that sort of variety is appreciated around the world. We wouldn't want all the GPs looking the same, would we?
It is, by many I'm sure. Unfortunately Bernie doesn't give a fk and is only interested in how much cash the government/organisers(same thing?)/some Sheikh or other is going to hand over.

Syndrome

892 posts

203 months

Friday 13th November 2009
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Man-At-Arms said:
has it ever been at Brands Hatch ?
It was called the european GP when at Brands Hatch.

Eric Mc

125,609 posts

294 months

Friday 13th November 2009
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Syndrome said:
Man-At-Arms said:
has it ever been at Brands Hatch ?
It was called the european GP when at Brands Hatch.
No.

For a number of years, the British Grand Prix proper alternated between Silverstone and Aintree and later between Silverstone and Brands Hatch.

Brands Hatch hosted its first British GP in 1962 and from that year onwards, the GP was held there on every "even" year with Silverstone getting the "odd" years.
In 1985, even though Silverstone hosted the British GP (as it was its "turn"), Brands Hatch did host the European GP as well (which I think was a last minute addition to tthe calendar due to the cancellation of one of the other rounds).

The last British GP held at Brands Hatch was in 1986.

Edited by Eric Mc on Friday 13th November 11:07

GAjon

4,081 posts

242 months

Friday 13th November 2009
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Eric Mc said:
Man-At-Arms said:
Eric Mc said:
There has only ever been a British Grand Prix held at Silverstone.
has it ever been at Brands Hatch ?
I wasn't excluding those either. It's just that there is no such thing as a "Silverstone GP".

Ironically, in pre-war days (before the whole F1 thing got going), the only truly international Grands Prix held in Britain were held at Donington and were called the "Donington GP" the two most notable being those of 1937 and 1938.
I'm sure I've seen some old film footage of those races somewhere, cars going through the Starkys bridge?
Link anyone?

Eric Mc

125,609 posts

294 months

Friday 13th November 2009
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Google "1937 or 1938 Donington GP". There's footage on youtube. Excerpts of these races were featured in the excellent 1990 BBC Series, "The Power and the Glory". Some of the footage is in colour.

Edited by Eric Mc on Friday 13th November 11:26