F1 2010 - FUELING!
F1 2010 - FUELING!
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Park'O

Original Poster:

656 posts

203 months

Saturday 28th November 2009
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No re-fueling next season? Could somebody please enlighten me on this new law!

robuk

2,512 posts

219 months

Saturday 28th November 2009
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There is no refueling in 2010.

Not sure how many times you can rephrase it smile

omgus

7,305 posts

204 months

Saturday 28th November 2009
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robuk said:
There is no refueling in 2010.

Not sure how many times you can rephrase it smile
rofl

FourWheelDrift

92,266 posts

313 months

Saturday 28th November 2009
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They start the race with full fuel for the whole race, can stop for tyres, qualy 3 will be a low fuel run.

Like it used to be before the insane fuelling rule was introduced.

Killer2005

20,591 posts

257 months

Saturday 28th November 2009
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They have to start a race with a full tank and they aren't allowed to stop for fuel

williamp

20,388 posts

302 months

Saturday 28th November 2009
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so they start with fuel, and they end the race with less fuel. But do they take on more fuel during the race? Sort of "filling up"?? (is this the right phrase??)

Park'O

Original Poster:

656 posts

203 months

Saturday 28th November 2009
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Right ok!! We all expecting less aggression then on track?

thunderbelmont

2,982 posts

253 months

Saturday 28th November 2009
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Derrr. No refuelling means NO REFUELLING!

(1)You start with a full tank (200L?)
(2)You finish with a nearly empty one.
(3)If you run out before the chequered flag - tough. DNF. Learn from it.


Del 203

12,728 posts

278 months

Saturday 28th November 2009
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Park'O said:
Right ok!! We all expecting less aggression then on track?
They wont race in the race, Q3 decides the podium wink





rolleyes

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 28th November 2009
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Park'O said:
Right ok!! We all expecting less aggression then on track?
No.

Park'O

Original Poster:

656 posts

203 months

Saturday 28th November 2009
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johnfelstead said:
Park'O said:
Right ok!! We all expecting less aggression then on track?
No.
No!! So if you had to watch your fuel, would you take it easy?

Marc W

3,782 posts

240 months

Saturday 28th November 2009
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No becuase they don't have to watch your fuel, they start the race with enough fuel to do the race at racing speeds. It certainly didn't used to reduce agression in the many years with no refuelling before 1994.

fivesixseven8

6,146 posts

256 months

Saturday 28th November 2009
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Marc W said:
No becuase they don't have to watch your fuel, they start the race with enough fuel to do the race at racing speeds. It certainly didn't used to reduce agression in the many years with no refuelling before 1994.
If anything it's going to make it a bit more interesting as the car characteristics change through the race. Heavy to start off and ending up at a gnats whisker over 620kg.

Park'O

Original Poster:

656 posts

203 months

Saturday 28th November 2009
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thunderbelmont said:
Derrr. No refuelling means NO REFUELLING!

(1)You start with a full tank (200L?)
(2)You finish with a nearly empty one.
(3)If you run out before the chequered flag - tough. DNF. Learn from it.
According to this chaps quote (3), drivers may not have enough fuel to finish?

fivesixseven8

6,146 posts

256 months

Saturday 28th November 2009
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Park'O said:
thunderbelmont said:
Derrr. No refuelling means NO REFUELLING!

(1)You start with a full tank (200L?)
(2)You finish with a nearly empty one.
(3)If you run out before the chequered flag - tough. DNF. Learn from it.
According to this chaps quote (3), drivers may not have enough fuel to finish?
Of course. Run a richer map for too long and you might run out, run too lean and you may have enough fuel but not be quick enough. All engines have different efficiency levels so I think we will see a fair few people stopping on the last few laps.

Park'O

Original Poster:

656 posts

203 months

Saturday 28th November 2009
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johnfelstead said:
Park'O said:
Right ok!! We all expecting less aggression then on track?
No.
Ok! So why did this fella quote this?

rubystone

11,254 posts

288 months

Saturday 28th November 2009
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Park'O said:
johnfelstead said:
Park'O said:
Right ok!! We all expecting less aggression then on track?
No.
Ok! So why did this fella quote this?
Out of curiosity, would you mind if I turned it round and asked you why you think there might be less aggression on track, given the new rule?

Thanks

thunderbelmont

2,982 posts

253 months

Saturday 28th November 2009
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The problem we have is that we've been force fed with refuelled F1 since 1994. Before that, especially in the turbo years, we had cars running out of fuel because drivers turned up the wick for too long when either chasing, or trying to run away from, other cars.

I remember Mansell pushing his car over the finish line because it ran out of juice on the last lap.

It was a common event.

Refuelling took the driver's skill of managing/balancing consumption over performance and threw it in the bin. Prost was probably the best in that area - why he was always known as the Professor.

I say, let's have 1.5L turbo's again. Whooo yeah! 1200hp Megatron's! (A Porsche designed 4 pot lump), or those lurvely V6 Honda's or V6's Ferrari's. That also requires drivers with big cahuna's and their best thinking heads on. When Formula ONE was number ONE.

2.4L V8's Pah!



Cara Van Man

29,977 posts

280 months

Saturday 28th November 2009
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Park'O said:
No re-fueling next season? Could somebody please enlighten me on this new law!
Well, it's been known for many months now.

The basis is

a) They will not refuel during the race
b) They will not refuel during the race
c) They will not refuel during the race

Any other questions?

zac510

5,546 posts

235 months

Saturday 28th November 2009
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Porsche designed that 4-pot lump? I think their Munich neighbour will have an objection to that!

Anyway to find out what will happen next year, just take the opposite of what the FIA are promising. This is on the long established trend that when the FIA promise something in their fairy land will happen, in real racing terms the exact opposite happens.