Massa Testing
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superkartracer

Original Poster:

8,959 posts

251 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80607

"I was very quick immediately"

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Kevin VRs

13,830 posts

309 months

Thursday 17th December 2009
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Well I don't think he was going to say "I was not very quick to start with and had a stiff neck after x laps". I have no idea whether or not he was quick, merely pointing out he will never say anything other than positive comments.

Anybody know what he lap times were?

mchammer89

3,127 posts

242 months

Thursday 17th December 2009
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Kevin VRs said:
Well I don't think he was going to say "I was not very quick to start with and had a stiff neck after x laps". I have no idea whether or not he was quick, merely pointing out he will never say anything other than positive comments.

Anybody know what he lap times were?
Surely he could've said something like "I struggled at first but after a while I was up to race pace.

Lap times will be irrelevant as it will be in a 3 year old car on demonstration tyres.

Mini1275

11,098 posts

211 months

Thursday 17th December 2009
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Prove me wrong but i don't think he'll be as quick next year.

mchammer89

3,127 posts

242 months

Thursday 17th December 2009
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Mini1275 said:
Prove me wrong but i don't think he'll be as quick next year.
Don't see why not, Mika had quite a bit of success after his crash at Adelaide.

Mini1275

11,098 posts

211 months

Thursday 17th December 2009
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mchammer89 said:
Mini1275 said:
Prove me wrong but i don't think he'll be as quick next year.
Don't see why not, Mika had quite a bit of success after his crash at Adelaide.
Don't know much about Mika's crash, was it as serious as Massa's?

EDLT

15,421 posts

235 months

Thursday 17th December 2009
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Mini1275 said:
Prove me wrong but i don't think he'll be as quick next year.
Only because Massa being slow is in Alonso's contract.

FNG

4,742 posts

253 months

Thursday 17th December 2009
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Mini1275 said:
Don't know much about Mika's crash, was it as serious as Massa's?
Not really. He was in a coma overnight and had a long off-season recovery, but he didn't seem any slower in the 1996 season.


Must say when he had his accident I did think that was his career over, but maybe not. Much as I have little time for him, he's come on a lot since Sauber and I'd rather see him retire when he chooses (or has lost his edge) than due to an injury outside of his control.

Edited by FNG on Thursday 17th December 13:41

mchammer89

3,127 posts

242 months

Thursday 17th December 2009
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FNG said:
Mini1275 said:
Don't know much about Mika's crash, was it as serious as Massa's?
Not really. He was in a coma overnight and had a long off-season recovery, but he didn't seem any slower in the 1996 season.


Must say when he had his accident I did think that was his career over, but maybe not. Much as I have little time for him, he's come on a lot since Sauber and I'd rather see him retire when he chooses (or has lost his edge) than due to an injury outside of his control.

Edited by FNG on Thursday 17th December 13:41
It was pretty serious, he was only saved because an emergency tracheotomy had to be performed trackside, if you listen to what JYS has to say about the crash, I think you'll agree it was pretty serious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXhWM8tZE_E

patmahe

5,919 posts

233 months

Thursday 17th December 2009
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Good to see him back, considering I thought he might be dead when I saw his accident. I hope his return goes well as others have said I'd hate to see an enforced retirement.

Stablelad

3,815 posts

233 months

Thursday 17th December 2009
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As long as he has a spring in his step.....


Sorry.


getmecoat



Wanta996Gotta

5,622 posts

236 months

Thursday 17th December 2009
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I personally want him to be 100% when he goes up against Alonso. That duel will let us know allot about what both drivers are made of.

FNG

4,742 posts

253 months

Thursday 17th December 2009
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mchammer89 said:
FNG said:
Mini1275 said:
Don't know much about Mika's crash, was it as serious as Massa's?
Not really. He was in a coma overnight and had a long off-season recovery, but he didn't seem any slower in the 1996 season.
It was pretty serious, he was only saved because an emergency tracheotomy had to be performed trackside, if you listen to what JYS has to say about the crash, I think you'll agree it was pretty serious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXhWM8tZE_E
I didn't say it wasn't serious, I said it wasn't as serious as Massa's.


KaraK

13,787 posts

238 months

Thursday 17th December 2009
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Stablelad said:
As long as he has a spring in his step.....


Sorry.


getmecoat
I think he will bounce back getmecoat

mchammer89

3,127 posts

242 months

Thursday 17th December 2009
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KaraK said:
Stablelad said:
As long as he has a spring in his step.....


Sorry.


getmecoat
I think he will bounce back next Spring getmecoat
EFA

Airbag

3,466 posts

225 months

Thursday 17th December 2009
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mchammer89 said:
KaraK said:
Stablelad said:
As long as he has a spring in his step.....


Sorry.


getmecoat
I think he will bounce back next Spring getmecoat
EFA
Especially with Stefano Domenicali at the helm.




getmecoat

mchammer89

3,127 posts

242 months

Thursday 17th December 2009
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Right that's enough guys, poor fella was almost killed in that accident.

Sorry for putting a damper on things.

Alex97

1,121 posts

217 months

Thursday 17th December 2009
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mchammer89 said:
Sorry for putting a damper on things.
It's ok, I wouldn't want anyone to coil over in embarrassment.

woof

8,456 posts

306 months

Thursday 17th December 2009
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mchammer89 said:
FNG said:
Mini1275 said:
Don't know much about Mika's crash, was it as serious as Massa's?
Not really. He was in a coma overnight and had a long off-season recovery, but he didn't seem any slower in the 1996 season.


Must say when he had his accident I did think that was his career over, but maybe not. Much as I have little time for him, he's come on a lot since Sauber and I'd rather see him retire when he chooses (or has lost his edge) than due to an injury outside of his control.

Edited by FNG on Thursday 17th December 13:41
It was pretty serious, he was only saved because an emergency tracheotomy had to be performed trackside, if you listen to what JYS has to say about the crash, I think you'll agree it was pretty serious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXhWM8tZE_E
never seen that onboard before. My god he was so lucky not to break his neck and be killed instantly.

If we had had HANS device back then he would of probably meant he would of been up and about in a few days.

plg101

4,106 posts

239 months

Friday 18th December 2009
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mchammer89 said:
Kevin VRs said:
Well I don't think he was going to say "I was not very quick to start with and had a stiff neck after x laps". I have no idea whether or not he was quick, merely pointing out he will never say anything other than positive comments.

Anybody know what he lap times were?
Surely he could've said something like "I struggled at first but after a while I was up to race pace.

Lap times will be irrelevant as it will be in a 3 year old car on demonstration tyres.
Why do you think they will be irrelevant?

They know the characteristics of the tyre; they know the car and will have a simulation time for that circuit in those conditions. They will know where Massa is against that target time, and his consistency over multiple laps, and how his heart rate changes, response times and a complete map of his braking zones, G loadings, etc.

So I doubt they are irrelevant. Not comparable to the current years car maybe...