US F1 Team - Video

[TonyToniTone]

http://www.usgpe.com/news/welcome-video.html

[300KPH]

Love this quote from their website

"This coupled with the fact that most of the technology currently in F1 is a product of the American aerospace industry makes Charlotte the perfect choice."

Hhmmmm, not going to knock any form of motorsport in created in the United States but me thinks F1 is going to be a different ball game. Global giants like Toyota failed to take a win, back in 2002 they had reportedly one of the biggest budgets of all and took only 2 points in the whole season. BMW, masters of most forms of motorsport faired little better. 2010 will be an interesting year for USF1.

[Allyc85]

I so hope USf1 get on the grid and stick 2 fingers up to the online experts that doubt them..

[hot metal]

Allyc85 said:

I so hope USf1 get on the grid and stick 2 fingers up to the online experts that doubt them..

But they won`t ,will they

However good luck to them in 2010.

Edited by hot metal on Sunday 27th December 11:42

[T89 Callan]

Allyc85 said:

I so hope USf1 get on the grid and stick 2 fingers up to the online experts that doubt them..

I don't think it's just the 'online experts' I think it's everyone.

Can anyone remember the 'All American Racers' CART team? The Americans couldn't even win in an American series that takes place in America with American drivers.

Good luck to them but they are starting as a new team with the distinct disadvantage of not being based in Britain.

[Northern Munkee]

Reads as fairly realistic that they'll make it to the grid, competitiveness, hmmm...

Interesting reading Windsor's blog - Quote "...With circuits like Monza, Barcelona and Valencia facing increasing pressure from environmentalists (a farmer near the Barcelona circuit recently won a large lawsuit because his cows stopped producing milk because of the noise of the cars and bikes!) the future is exactly as Bernie Ecclestone planned it - on circuits that can grow without limitation. At facilities like MotorLand Aragon. US F1 Team’s building there – overlooking the circuit..."

So is that why we are going to all these middle east circuits with zero history and only slightly higher crowds? (And the fat state subsidy, of course.)

[groomi]

For all those knocking the 'mericans for their 'world series' based in America etc. just how much of a 'world' championship would F1 be if all the teams were based in England (with the exception of Ferrari)?

To be a true world championship, we need a world representation of teams. That's why it's a shame Lotus isn't simply racing as a Malaysian team without the faux British branding.

I too doubt USF1 will be on the grid, but I hope they are just for the variety.

[CAD Monkey]

Anyone else spot the guy doing the carbon fibre work, just before it goes in the autoclave, nice england shirt!

[hairyben]

300KPH said:

Love this quote from their website

"This coupled with the fact that most of the technology currently in F1 is a product of the American aerospace industry makes Charlotte the perfect choice."

Hhmmmm, not going to knock any form of motorsport in created in the United States but me thinks F1 is going to be a different ball game. Global giants like Toyota failed to take a win, back in 2002 they had reportedly one of the biggest budgets of all and took only 2 points in the whole season. BMW, masters of most forms of motorsport faired little better. 2010 will be an interesting year for USF1.

I damn just about fell on the floor laughing when I first heard that, best part of a year or so ago now (I remember it vividly), and filed USF1 under "laughing stock" immediately.

It's a fair point that a quantity of individual component supply (eg titanium nuts and bolts) and a lot of the specialist tooling that F1 teams use (for carbon-fibre etc) will be aerospace-derived and hence america would be one of the main contenders to supply such kit, so his choice of location is not as odd as it may seem. But it's the utter dismissal that quote seems to carry- you get the impression he believes the good ol' US of A already builds the cars and the boys in maranello and woking just put stickers on- that makes you want to don a cowboy hat, and in a southern drawl go "yee-har, i a got me a pick-up truck and am-a gonna go-F1-racing, gonna kick me some goddarn euro-commie ass!"

[hot metal]

[AndrewW-G]

groomi said:

For all those knocking the 'mericans for their 'world series' based in America etc. just how much of a 'world' championship would F1 be if all the teams were based in England (with the exception of Ferrari)?.

In the last 10 years F1's had Toyota (germany), Minardi / Torro Rosso (Italy), Prost(France) Sauber (Switzerland) to name a few and lets face it the races are spread out over the planet with the obvious and rather daft exception of the US and Canada! whereas the American cart/indy championships have a almost total focus on the US ..................but they do seem to have mastered the knack of actually overtaking on the track!

[groomi]

AndrewW-G said:

groomi said:

For all those knocking the 'mericans for their 'world series' based in America etc. just how much of a 'world' championship would F1 be if all the teams were based in England (with the exception of Ferrari)?.

In the last 10 years F1's had Toyota (germany), Minardi / Torro Rosso (Italy), Prost(France) Sauber (Switzerland) to name a few and lets face it the races are spread out over the planet with the obvious and rather daft exception of the US and Canada! whereas the American cart/indy championships have a almost total focus on the US ..................but they do seem to have mastered the knack of actually overtaking on the track!

Toyota are gone. Torro Rosso are still around and are at last building their own cars (have been using Red Bulls built in the UK example for the past couple of seasons). Prost are long gone. Sauber are out of it unless one of the new teams don't make it to the grid.

Without the new teams such as USF1, then it's all UK with a couple of Italians.

[AndrewW-G]

groomi said:

AndrewW-G said:

groomi said:

For all those knocking the 'mericans for their 'world series' based in America etc. just how much of a 'world' championship would F1 be if all the teams were based in England (with the exception of Ferrari)?.

In the last 10 years F1's had Toyota (germany), Minardi / Torro Rosso (Italy), Prost(France) Sauber (Switzerland) to name a few and lets face it the races are spread out over the planet with the obvious and rather daft exception of the US and Canada! whereas the American cart/indy championships have a almost total focus on the US ..................but they do seem to have mastered the knack of actually overtaking on the track!

Toyota are gone. Torro Rosso are still around and are at last building their own cars (have been using Red Bulls built in the UK example for the past couple of seasons). Prost are long gone. Sauber are out of it unless one of the new teams don't make it to the grid.

Without the new teams such as USF1, then it's all UK with a couple of Italians.

True, not a good state of affairs, thought Sauber had got a grid slot? (or am I going to be mocked for not keeping up with the news )

[Northern Munkee]

AndrewW-G said:

groomi said:

AndrewW-G said:

groomi said:

For all those knocking the 'mericans for their 'world series' based in America etc. just how much of a 'world' championship would F1 be if all the teams were based in England (with the exception of Ferrari)?.

In the last 10 years F1's had Toyota (germany), Minardi / Torro Rosso (Italy), Prost(France) Sauber (Switzerland) to name a few and lets face it the races are spread out over the planet with the obvious and rather daft exception of the US and Canada! whereas the American cart/indy championships have a almost total focus on the US ..................but they do seem to have mastered the knack of actually overtaking on the track!

Toyota are gone. Torro Rosso are still around and are at last building their own cars (have been using Red Bulls built in the UK example for the past couple of seasons). Prost are long gone. Sauber are out of it unless one of the new teams don't make it to the grid.

Without the new teams such as USF1, then it's all UK with a couple of Italians.

True, not a good state of affairs, thought Sauber had got a grid slot? (or am I going to be mocked for not keeping up with the news )

Sauber effectively got Toyota's berth.

Is it worth pointing out for all their prowess for overtaking and focus on US racing, and know how on openwheelers, the most successful teams in CART before it went one make and then folded have been driving Lola (UK), Reynard (UK), March (UK), even Penske, yes (Poole Dorset, UK), and Indycar, well they did have G Force (US Panoz, eventually withdrew), Riley & Scott (bought by Reynard, before they gave up) and now have Dallara (Italian) who build amongst many F3 the Campos F1 Car.

I used to love CART circa Zanardi through Montoya era. Shame it all got stuffed up by Tony George and the IRL, and there's a suggestion that Ecclestone might have been bank rolling the IRL to stop CART/Champcar during it's pomp, becoming a serious open wheel competitor to F1 (crazy idea I know).

I for one welcome USF1 arguably a crucial ingredient to a successful return to the North American leg of a 'World Championship'. Just hope the audience isn't fickle if they are tail enders, or that USF1 take their ball home. With the return of Lotus (ahem), I'd like USf1 to run in a Dan Gurney Eagle livery, possibly the best looking 60's F1 car (saying something as they almost all look great!).

Edited by Northern Munkee on Monday 28th December 00:32

[marine boy]

USF1 have very few people working in the key positions that have recent F1 experience and for me there is too much 'smoke and mirrors' surrounding the team for it to be taken as a credible new entry.

I would love to see them turn up at the first race and really hope they are there at the end of the season, it would be good for the sport but somehow I can't see it happening.

[dpbird90]

Apparantly their silence is "deliberate"

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80684

Read as "we're so far behind the others but are too ashamed to admit it"

[IforB]

dpbird90 said:

Apparantly their silence is "deliberate"

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80684

Read as "we're so far behind the others but are too ashamed to admit it"

I read it thinking "My God, how does one man talk so much crap and say so little."

I'd like USF1 on the grid, but I just can't see them making it in any meaningful form. If they do, they will be a million miles off the pace and probably will be unlikely to qualify.

Have they any drivers signed?

[AndrewW-G]

dpbird90 said:

Apparantly their silence is "deliberate"

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80684

Read as "we're so far behind the others but are too ashamed to admit it"

It's odd that in at least that article they seem to be saying that because they can reconfigure and redecorate an industrial building quickly, that they will be competitive in F1 or am I just reading to much into it........................the thing is I've never heard anything from Ron Dennis, Luca DMZ or Sir Frank Williams along the lines of "we've had a coat of Dulux put on the walls of the factory, so things look good for the complex F1 car were building for next year"

[dpbird90]

IforB said:

dpbird90 said:

Apparantly their silence is "deliberate"

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80684

Read as "we're so far behind the others but are too ashamed to admit it"

I read it thinking "My God, how does one man talk so much crap and say so little."

I'd like USF1 on the grid, but I just can't see them making it in any meaningful form. If they do, they will be a million miles off the pace and probably will be unlikely to qualify.

Have they any drivers signed?

Nope, no drivers announced, by the looks of the video they've not long finished their factory which doesn't have a wind tunnel, and the only part they've actually built is one single nosecone. Considering they've apparantly been working on the project for many years, it sounds like they've failed already. It also sounds similar to the Donington story. They knew they would be hosting the F1 in 2010 back in summer 2008, so why do virtually fk all until winter 2009?

[T89 Callan]

AndrewW-G said:

dpbird90 said:

Apparantly their silence is "deliberate"

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80684

Read as "we're so far behind the others but are too ashamed to admit it"

It's odd that in at least that article they seem to be saying that because they can reconfigure and redecorate an industrial building quickly, that they will be competitive in F1 or am I just reading to much into it........................the thing is I've never heard anything from Ron Dennis, Luca DMZ or Sir Frank Williams along the lines of "we've had a coat of Dulux put on the walls of the factory, so things look good for the complex F1 car were building for next year"

3 weeks to repaint an industrial unit doesn't sound very quick to me.