F1 Grand Slam masters (vid)
F1 Grand Slam masters (vid)
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mattikake

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5,116 posts

228 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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Another statistic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBYf6K-KCSU

No, despite his car advantage, Schumi doesn't feature. A shame that. wink

Did you guess right?

philis

415 posts

246 months

Friday 26th February 2010
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Interesting stat.
Im glad not many drivers manage it now, makes for a very boring weekend

Mazda Baiter

37,069 posts

217 months

Friday 26th February 2010
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He only came second in a World championship GP once. He either won or there was a problem with the car. In the 1963 German GP at the Nurburgring he led from pole position only for his engine to go down to 7 cylinders towards the end of the race.

I truely believe he was the greatest driver that we have ever seen.

O/T isn't it strange how his career is so entwined with Lotus, even down the the numbers in the statistics.

He won 25 Grands Prix. The Lotus 25 was the championship winning car in 1963.

He won 33 Pole positions. The Lotus 33 was the championship winning car in 1965.

He started in 72 Grands Prix. The Lotus 72 was, arguably, one of Lotus' greatest racing cars.

Mazda Baiter

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217 months

Friday 26th February 2010
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After thinking about this over the aternoon, possibly the most impressive member of that quintet is Senna. He managed to keep that statistic in an era when pit-stops for tyres (if not fuel) could drop the leader down the order. In Clark's era going into the pits was normallý a lengthy affair for either a puncture or a problem with the car. Mind you, Senna knew exactly how to keep rivals behind him!

Alfanatic

9,339 posts

248 months

Friday 26th February 2010
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Senna's position seems all the more impressive to me considering his relatively low fastest lap score.

Schumi might not figure simply because of the sheer volume of wins he had. Something in the back of my head is suggesting that it would be harder to keep the grand slam ratio up when adding more and more wins, but I can't put any logic behind that, so perhaps there isn't any. Still, Schumi also seemed to have a talent for maximising his race result.. coming 2nd when stuck in 5th gear, so many podium finishes.. perhaps his race win count is inflated by an unusually high number of opportunist wins, where he just made sure he was in the right place at the right time. Of course, he / Brawn also had a habit of winning races in the pits rather than by simply driving away from the field.

2nd edit: And no, I didn't guess right! Was surprised when Jackie Stewart popped up in the list too.

Edited by Alfanatic on Friday 26th February 19:01

mattikake

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5,116 posts

228 months

Saturday 27th February 2010
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^ It's Senna's fastest lap score that does the most damage to his Grand Slam rate actually! Maybe the Senna of '84 or '85.

Tyre stops was the other main damager.

Then the lap distance of a circuit - 'Ring, Spa etc were longer laps back in Clark's day too, which can work as a double whammy with tyre stops, if only a simple tyre stop.

In truth, it's much harder to get a Grand Slam in modern racing.

I'll have a look at the Triple Crown rates later...

Mazda Baiter

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217 months

Saturday 27th February 2010
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Triple crown being... Monaco/F1 WDC, Indy 500 and Le Mans.

Let me make that easy. Graham Hill. 1962/1968 F1 WDC, 1966 Indy 500 winner, 1972 Le Mans winner.

Or you could choose any one of his 5 Monaco wins instead.

mattikake

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Saturday 27th February 2010
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No sorry - I mean Pole, Win, Fastest lap.

Mazda Baiter

37,069 posts

217 months

Saturday 27th February 2010
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OK. Damon Hill could score quite high in that.