Stefan GP Not On Entry List
Stefan GP Not On Entry List
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dpbird90

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5,535 posts

219 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81828

Making the FIA selection process even more of a shambles. Campos/HRT haven't signed a second driver or produced a car. Stefan have Nakajaffa and Villeneuve, and a car. Why aren't they there?

Only reason I can think of is they'd need all the other teams to agree, and Ferrari aren't going to like Mr Coughlan back in F1

Fire99

9,865 posts

258 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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I have to admit I wouldn't like to put money on exactly how many teams will have cars at the 1st race. 2 or 3 of these new teams seem to be everywhere but having a car ready.

MiniMan64

19,351 posts

219 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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It is completely ridiculous that we have a top line sport which has just had it's best season in like, forever and that the next one is shaping up to be even better.

And the governing body fk around so much that they can't even put together and entry list properly to such an extent that there's an empty slot and a complete running team ready to go and they still can't make it work.

oobster

7,678 posts

240 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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If I was a betting man I'd put a few quid on Stefan GP taking part in 9 days time. Bernie says the FIA are going to do a "business review" and if positive they may race in Bahrain.

Nurburgsingh

5,538 posts

267 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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having not kept my eye on the ball I'm glad to see that kobayashi has got a drive!

williamp

20,388 posts

302 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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MiniMan64 said:
It is completely ridiculous that we have a top line sport which has just had it's best season in like, forever and that the next one is shaping up to be even better.

And the governing body fk around so much that they can't even put together and entry list properly to such an extent that there's an empty slot and a complete running team ready to go and they still can't make it work.
It does make you wonder, doesnt it. And to think, Prodrive didnt get the nod because of US F1, Campos Meta were "better" options for F1.

elster

17,517 posts

239 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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williamp said:
MiniMan64 said:
It is completely ridiculous that we have a top line sport which has just had it's best season in like, forever and that the next one is shaping up to be even better.

And the governing body fk around so much that they can't even put together and entry list properly to such an extent that there's an empty slot and a complete running team ready to go and they still can't make it work.
It does make you wonder, doesnt it. And to think, Prodrive didnt get the nod because of US F1, Campos Meta were "better" options for F1.
No one got a team entered due to being better.

It is who was in favour with his majesty at the time.

Jungles

3,587 posts

250 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2010
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williamp said:
MiniMan64 said:
It is completely ridiculous that we have a top line sport which has just had it's best season in like, forever and that the next one is shaping up to be even better.

And the governing body fk around so much that they can't even put together and entry list properly to such an extent that there's an empty slot and a complete running team ready to go and they still can't make it work.
It does make you wonder, doesnt it. And to think, Prodrive didnt get the nod because of US F1, Campos Meta were "better" options for F1.
To be fair, Campos Meta has just as much credibility as Prodrive. Just because they aren't a British team, doesn't make them any less of a racing team.

IforB

9,840 posts

258 months

Thursday 4th March 2010
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I am surprised at the mess that Campos have got themselves into. When they were announced, I thought they'd probably be the best of the new teams. I suppose that shows what I know about F1!

Stupidlikeafox

794 posts

207 months

Thursday 4th March 2010
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dpbird90 said:
Campos/HRT haven't signed a second driver or produced a car.
I think they are suppposed to be announcing Karun Chandhok sometime this week, possibly today?

FourWheelDrift

92,259 posts

313 months

Thursday 4th March 2010
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Stupidlikeafox said:
I think they are suppposed to be announcing Karun Chandhok sometime this week, possibly today?
That post I made on the other thread about them being a minimum of 9secs off the pace, make that 12.

Mazda Baiter

37,069 posts

217 months

Thursday 4th March 2010
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FourWheelDrift said:
Stupidlikeafox said:
I think they are suppposed to be announcing Karun Chandhok sometime this week, possibly today?
That post I made on the other thread about them being a minimum of 9secs off the pace, make that 12.
hehe

T89 Callan

8,422 posts

222 months

Thursday 4th March 2010
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Fire99 said:
I have to admit I wouldn't like to put money on exactly how many teams will have cars at the 1st race. 2 or 3 of these new teams seem to be everywhere but having a car ready.
You what?

Lotus and Virgin are running cars, USF1 is now shut down. Only Campos/Hispanna need to get a car done

jonnylayze

1,640 posts

255 months

Thursday 4th March 2010
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T89 Callan said:
Fire99 said:
I have to admit I wouldn't like to put money on exactly how many teams will have cars at the 1st race. 2 or 3 of these new teams seem to be everywhere but having a car ready.
You what?

Lotus and Virgin are running cars, USF1 is now shut down. Only Campos/Hispanna need to get a car done
The Lotus is running (slowly/ off the pace) and seems quite reliable
Virgin have run their computer designed car but have ongoing hydraulic issues and are slow/ off the pace.
Campos/Hispana haven't tested (I don't think) and haven't launched their car. They don't have a second driver announced at present.
US F1 looked finished more or less from the outset.
Stefan GP (I think) have one car (which was going to be a Toyota), 2 drivers and no tyres.
Prodrive would have got the job done.

With a week and a bit to go, it is not a smart way to run a sport.


With crash tests likely to be another difficult hurdle for Stefan or Campos it is clear that customer cars are definitely the right way to go (and would be a source of sustainable income for manufacturers like Williams)


Red Firecracker

5,346 posts

256 months

Thursday 4th March 2010
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jonnylayze said:
Campos/Hispana haven't tested (I don't think) and haven't launched their car. They don't have a second driver announced at present.
Karun Chandhok announced as second driver.


jonnylayze said:
With crash tests likely to be another difficult hurdle for Stefan or Campos it is clear that customer cars are definitely the right way to go (and would be a source of sustainable income for manufacturers like Williams)
The Dallara designed and built car passed it's final mandatory crash test on the 19th January.



Edited by Red Firecracker on Thursday 4th March 14:13

jonnylayze

1,640 posts

255 months

Thursday 4th March 2010
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I stand corrected - but still doubt that Campos will make it to the grid in Bahrain...

hairyben

8,516 posts

212 months

Thursday 4th March 2010
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jonnylayze said:
With crash tests likely to be another difficult hurdle for Stefan or Campos it is clear that customer cars are definitely the right way to go (and would be a source of sustainable income for manufacturers like Williams)
Thats quite a leap right there. I'd say, and it's been well discussed in other topics, the FIA's selection criteria was at fault.

We'll soon see, although it's only fair to give the likes of virgin a chance.

As for stefan, their tenacity is impressive -they seem to have at least the determination that you need to succeed in F1- but I fear their fate is sealed by signing mike couglan, which gives them about as much chance of getting into F1 as the KKK have of getting mobo award.

FourWheelDrift

92,259 posts

313 months

Thursday 4th March 2010
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jonnylayze said:
With crash tests likely to be another difficult hurdle for Stefan or Campos
See above, 2nd driver for HRT is Karun Chandhok, lap 1 Friday morning will complete any necessary crash testing.

LocoBlade

7,653 posts

285 months

Thursday 4th March 2010
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Campos / HRT launched their car today, looks similar to the Manor/Virgin car at first glance


from http://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/


LocoBlade

7,653 posts

285 months

Friday 5th March 2010
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Maybe this is why they've not been fast tracked in as a replacement....

http://www.f1technical.net/news/14333?sid=0188a3f9...