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haha. Too right. The moaners are simply afraid of him. Biggest compliment there is.
haha. Too right. The moaners are simply afraid of him. Biggest compliment there is.
mattikake said:
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haha. Too right. The moaners are simply afraid of him. Biggest compliment there is.
Good on him I say. The position he is in, you might think he'd keep thoughts like that to himself.haha. Too right. The moaners are simply afraid of him. Biggest compliment there is.
This anti weaving lark started when Schumacher pulled one of his classic PR stunts. He pulled out of the pits at Canada right into the path of, I seem to remember, HH Frentzen. It was a very dangerous move. But instead of the quick apology one might have expected, at the post race press conference he spouted off about Damon Hill driving dangerously.
It was very clever, taking all the press coverage from his move onto Hill's. There was argument either way in the papers about weaving but nothing about pulling out in front of cars braking for a corner. Had there been any discussion I would assume that there would have been no one supporting MS. Not even that bloke Mosley, who used to be something I seem to remember, whose love for everything German was a mystery to us all until the News of the World explained everything.
I seem to remember a concensus of even the biggests critics of anything Damon Hill agreeing that it was perfectly all right to attempt to break a tow. Now, it would appear, things have changed.
But there does seem to be this desire for a comfort zone amongst drivers. Let's all cruise around the circuit and pull in the money sort of thing. LH's driving may or may not be against the rules but it is not boring. I'm a big critic of Webber's driving but the sport would be the poorer for him not getting a place on the grid.
LH should have given way in the pits much earlier than he did but, after the enquiry, it would appear it was not against the rules to continue alongside. Vettel's move was a bit out of order and to blame LH for wanting to touch wheels is a bit rich. Compared to weaving, a move into another car in the pits, even at such a comparatively slow speed is more dangerous.
Vettel appears a bit under pressure. He's done everything right in qually but suffered during the races. The norm is for differences in performance to even out during the season. If he doesn't capitalise on his advantage now then he might struggle later on in the season when the other teams make, er, adjustments to their cars.
Vettel's quality though and he should be able to get some of the points that his driving obviously merits.
It was very clever, taking all the press coverage from his move onto Hill's. There was argument either way in the papers about weaving but nothing about pulling out in front of cars braking for a corner. Had there been any discussion I would assume that there would have been no one supporting MS. Not even that bloke Mosley, who used to be something I seem to remember, whose love for everything German was a mystery to us all until the News of the World explained everything.
I seem to remember a concensus of even the biggests critics of anything Damon Hill agreeing that it was perfectly all right to attempt to break a tow. Now, it would appear, things have changed.
But there does seem to be this desire for a comfort zone amongst drivers. Let's all cruise around the circuit and pull in the money sort of thing. LH's driving may or may not be against the rules but it is not boring. I'm a big critic of Webber's driving but the sport would be the poorer for him not getting a place on the grid.
LH should have given way in the pits much earlier than he did but, after the enquiry, it would appear it was not against the rules to continue alongside. Vettel's move was a bit out of order and to blame LH for wanting to touch wheels is a bit rich. Compared to weaving, a move into another car in the pits, even at such a comparatively slow speed is more dangerous.
Vettel appears a bit under pressure. He's done everything right in qually but suffered during the races. The norm is for differences in performance to even out during the season. If he doesn't capitalise on his advantage now then he might struggle later on in the season when the other teams make, er, adjustments to their cars.
Vettel's quality though and he should be able to get some of the points that his driving obviously merits.
Derek Smith said:
...Not even that bloke Mosley, who used to be something I seem to remember, whose love for everything German was a mystery to us all until the News of the World explained everything...
Very good Derek!Back to Bernie.
I'm old enough to remember F1 before Bernie.
He 'made' F1, he brought in the money and the safety which has trickle down to all levels of motor racing. Sometimes I think people forget that.
Derek Smith said:
LH should have given way in the pits much earlier than he did but, after the enquiry, it would appear it was not against the rules to continue alongside. Vettel's move was a bit out of order and to blame LH for wanting to touch wheels is a bit rich. Compared to weaving, a move into another car in the pits, even at such a comparatively slow speed is more dangerous.
Although Vettel is not English (making it impossible for me to support him 
) and not the most exciting driver to watch on-track, I really like the guy. He's a sound happy chappy. But this outburst at Hamilton for the pit incident is his first poor display in my book.I assume everyone has seen the footage at how SV moved right over on LH and deliberately pushed him toward the wheel guns. The pitlane is part of the racetrack still and LH has every right to fight for the position. SB still had track position and there is room for two cars there. SB moving over on him was almost akin to one driver pushing another off the track onto the grass a la Schumi of old. Very aggressive. I don't really have a problem with it though - just good hard racing.
But to moan about it as if LH should've given way and was 100% at fault was poor form. The road was owned by neither of them. So I take this attack as a slightly desperate measure by a worried SB.
mattikake said:
Derek Smith said:
LH should have given way in the pits much earlier than he did but, after the enquiry, it would appear it was not against the rules to continue alongside. Vettel's move was a bit out of order and to blame LH for wanting to touch wheels is a bit rich. Compared to weaving, a move into another car in the pits, even at such a comparatively slow speed is more dangerous.
Although Vettel is not English (making it impossible for me to support him ) and not the most exciting driver to watch on-track, I really like the guy. He's a sound happy chappy. But this outburst at Hamilton for the pit incident is his first poor display in my book.I assume everyone has seen the footage at how SV moved right over on LH and deliberately pushed him toward the wheel guns. The pitlane is part of the racetrack still and LH has every right to fight for the position. SB still had track position and there is room for two cars there. SB moving over on him was almost akin to one driver pushing another off the track onto the grass a la Schumi of old. Very aggressive. I don't really have a problem with it though - just good hard racing.
But to moan about it as if LH should've given way and was 100% at fault was poor form. The road was owned by neither of them. So I take this attack as a slightly desperate measure by a worried SB.
Vettel had no right to try and force Lewis out. Bloody arrogent if the false German kid. He's quick though, I'll give him that.
It is clear to see that Vettel is a huge talent but to come out after the race with that load of crap has certainly soured my opinion of him.
F1 drivers (in the GPDA) have far too much influence on the FIA. If I remember correctly Lewis elected not to join the GPDA in his 1st season although I don't know if that is still the case but it would explain many of the reasons why the members of the GPDA keep attacking him for no apparent reason!!!
Simply put, MAN UP YOU BUNCH OF WHINGING a
holeS!!! It really is very tedious! Rather than putting your effort in to bhing about someone who is clearly quicker than you!! Heres an idea, hows about you do what you are paid to do and figure out how to beat him ON THE RACE TRACK!!!!!!!
F1 drivers (in the GPDA) have far too much influence on the FIA. If I remember correctly Lewis elected not to join the GPDA in his 1st season although I don't know if that is still the case but it would explain many of the reasons why the members of the GPDA keep attacking him for no apparent reason!!!
Simply put, MAN UP YOU BUNCH OF WHINGING a
holeS!!! It really is very tedious! Rather than putting your effort in to bhing about someone who is clearly quicker than you!! Heres an idea, hows about you do what you are paid to do and figure out how to beat him ON THE RACE TRACK!!!!!!!Edited by StuartMcKay on Tuesday 20th April 09:59
StuartMcKay said:
It is clear to see that Vettel is a huge talent but to come out after the race with that load of crap has certainly soured my opinion of him.
F1 drivers (in the GPDA) have far too much influence on the FIA. If I remember correctly Lewis elected not to join the GPDA in his 1st season although I don't know if that is still the case but it would explain many of the reasons why the members of the GPDA keep attacking him for no apparent reason!!!
Simply put, MAN UP YOU BUNCH OF WHINGING aholeS!!! It really is very tedious! Rather than putting your effort in to bhing about someone who is clearly quicker than you!! Heres an idea, hows about you do what you are paid to do and figure out how to beat him ON THE RACE TRACK!!!!!!!
Great Post - Totally agree. Lewis did join the GPDA last year after some bF1 drivers (in the GPDA) have far too much influence on the FIA. If I remember correctly Lewis elected not to join the GPDA in his 1st season although I don't know if that is still the case but it would explain many of the reasons why the members of the GPDA keep attacking him for no apparent reason!!!
Simply put, MAN UP YOU BUNCH OF WHINGING a
holeS!!! It really is very tedious! Rather than putting your effort in to bhing about someone who is clearly quicker than you!! Heres an idea, hows about you do what you are paid to do and figure out how to beat him ON THE RACE TRACK!!!!!!!Edited by StuartMcKay on Tuesday 20th April 09:59
hing of why was he not in it? It does sound pathetic hearing grown men moan about Lewis.Mini1275 said:
Like Brundle said, he's to fast for them.
True - watching the highlights was like the "Lewis Hamilton Show". He seemed to go past some of them asif they were not there(both Renaults in particular). The double move on Sutil & Vettel was class and the way Schumachers ass collapsed after the safety car and was taken by Lewis "again" must have made Schumi realise that its changed days in F1.I still want to see him and Alonso start at the front so that we can see who is the fastest driver out there. Alonso told us how the F10 was the best car he has ever driven so lets see these two go at it.
I am surprised at Brundle's take on Hamilton and Button this weekend. He seems to have forgotten that it's racing. Vettel's move on Hamilton in the pit lane caused more problems than Hamilton coming out alongside including stopping LH from dropping back due to interlocking wheels. As For Button slowing down before the restart the problem was more the Cars behind "burning up" their tyres for the restart.
Wanta996Gotta said:
True - watching the highlights was like the "Lewis Hamilton Show".
I missed Malaysia - but watching the highlights for that was like the "Lewis Hamilton Show".I can imagine Australia would be much the same.
Lewis Hamilton + good car - decent grid slot = entertainment!
^ Totally! Always want him to screw up his quali these days!
He's the best thing that's happened to F1 since Nige left.
ETA - Brundle has his overtake count for the first 4 races at 32! That's 8 average per race. In 2009 the average overtakes for ALL drivers was 9.
Bring it on.
He's the best thing that's happened to F1 since Nige left.
ETA - Brundle has his overtake count for the first 4 races at 32! That's 8 average per race. In 2009 the average overtakes for ALL drivers was 9.
Bring it on.
Edited by mattikake on Tuesday 20th April 19:46
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