No F1 in HD before 2012
No F1 in HD before 2012
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woof

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306 months

Sunday 13th June 2010
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Formula 1 fans will have to wait until 2012 for the championship to be broadcast in High Definition, the sport's commercial boss Bernie Ecclestone has predicted, despite increasing calls for the switch.

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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/84448

sherman

15,218 posts

244 months

Sunday 13th June 2010
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After todays race I would settle for the satellite to work properly through out the race.

rubystone

11,254 posts

288 months

Sunday 13th June 2010
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By that time he will have considered he'd got his money's worth out of the non HD tech. Whe else would they not have made the switch? Gigawave perfected the technology in MotoGP and in yachting years ago, where the conditions are far more harsh. Once again, this is about money, nothing more, nothing less. The teams want the change - the cameras weigh a tenth of the old ones and are tiny in comparison.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

303 months

Sunday 13th June 2010
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if you read what he is saying, he is basically telling the broadcasters to ask (and then pay) for it.

it's not a technical issue, it;s just Berni wanting to be paid (more).

can you imagine what he would want for 3D?

remember why the multi-screen package got shelved, that cost Berni a lot, he is not about to do the same.

sherman

15,218 posts

244 months

Sunday 13th June 2010
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Could you imagine 3D F1 when there is a crash. You would literally duck as the wheels etc flew out of the screen towards you.

dpbird90

5,535 posts

219 months

Sunday 13th June 2010
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I'd imagine the BBC can afford to stump up the cash

Boozy

2,427 posts

248 months

Sunday 13th June 2010
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You can watch it in high def in the States, not sure why they don't have it in the UK though.

Silent1

19,762 posts

264 months

Sunday 13th June 2010
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Boozy said:
You can watch it in high def in the States, not sure why they don't have it in the UK though.
It'll be upscaled as it's not filmed in HD.

woof

Original Poster:

8,456 posts

306 months

Sunday 13th June 2010
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sherman said:
Could you imagine 3D F1 when there is a crash. You would literally duck as the wheels etc flew out of the screen towards you.
They were testing a 3d camera this weekend !

Boozy

2,427 posts

248 months

Sunday 13th June 2010
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Silent1 said:
Boozy said:
You can watch it in high def in the States, not sure why they don't have it in the UK though.
It'll be upscaled as it's not filmed in HD.
Ahhh, good point, well made.

sherman

15,218 posts

244 months

Monday 14th June 2010
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woof said:
sherman said:
Could you imagine 3D F1 when there is a crash. You would literally duck as the wheels etc flew out of the screen towards you.
They were testing a 3d camera this weekend !
There were no decent crashes though. Just a few broken nose cones.

FasterFreddy

8,577 posts

266 months

Monday 14th June 2010
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rubystone said:
By that time he will have considered he'd got his money's worth out of the non HD tech. Whe else would they not have made the switch? Gigawave perfected the technology in MotoGP and in yachting years ago, where the conditions are far more harsh. Once again, this is about money, nothing more, nothing less. The teams want the change - the cameras weigh a tenth of the old ones and are tiny in comparison.
The onboards are already HD. They started making the transition 3 seasons ago!

And MotoGP is still SD, BTW.

As we keep on saying in these threads, it's not the cameras that are the problem, but the feeds and the money being asked for to make the switch as a whole.

the-photographer

5,063 posts

205 months

Monday 14th June 2010
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It's definately available in Japan (for the past few years) probably a local thing and not part of any global agreement.

jellison

12,803 posts

306 months

Monday 14th June 2010
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Who the hell cares - cars going round a track, if you want an experince so live like - just walk out your front door!

DeadMeat_UK

3,058 posts

311 months

Monday 14th June 2010
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Watched Le Mans in HD this weekend - made a clear difference and was stunning.

Tried to watched the footy, holy st did ITV HD f*ck up.

Unfortunately I think I left Sky+ on Autosport HD (but on standby) Sunday afternoon. When I came to watch F1 @ 8pm Sky box had crashed and not recorded. Arse biscuits - had to wait for it to go up on iPlayer.

HellDiver

5,708 posts

211 months

Monday 14th June 2010
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jellison said:
Who the hell cares - cars going round a track, if you want an experince so live like - just walk out your front door!
Thanks for your valuable input. It made the whole thread worthwhile.rolleyes

jellison

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306 months

Monday 14th June 2010
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HellDiver said:
jellison said:
Who the hell cares - cars going round a track, if you want an experince so live like - just walk out your front door!
Thanks for your valuable input. It made the whole thread worthwhile.rolleyes
Your welcome. I bet yours is huge too (the tele). Mind you I'd never go to a race track apart from to race either.

Eric Mc

125,609 posts

294 months

Monday 14th June 2010
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What are you trying to say - in your rather inarticulate fashion?

plg

4,106 posts

239 months

Monday 14th June 2010
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HD (trackside) is achievable now - sort of...

A lot (all) of the tracks rely on local broadcasters to provide the kit and feed. Whilst some countries have a consistent outside broadcast available in HD - not all have (and F1 is very "kit intensive") - and all would need to have in place before launching the service and committing to HD channels.

Next challenge is that for the majority of viewers - do they have the receiving kit in place? Yes, some people have Sky / Freesat, but on terrestrial, still very little bandwidth for many HD channels?

Finally, I also understand that the tests for the on car systems in HD are still work in progress - the current on board systems have had years to develop and improve. Building a very compact HD recorder that can withstand 5-6g, and transmit a full HD stream in realtime is probably quite hard to do. To pick up that stream (much more data than an SD stream) at somewhere like Monaco must be a technical nightmare?

Whilst I'm as keen for HD as anyone else, it isn't as simple as football (small number of cameras, fixed stadium, no camera on the ball) or tennis (again a controlled environment)...or as simple as NASCAR or Indy (single country and potentially single broadcaster)...

Silverbullet767

11,253 posts

235 months

Monday 14th June 2010
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woof said:
sherman said:
Could you imagine 3D F1 when there is a crash. You would literally duck as the wheels etc flew out of the screen towards you.
They were testing a 3d camera this weekend !
I'd like to see Hamiltons girl jumping up and down in my front room.