New Safety car regs!

[24lemons]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/85072

"AUTOSPORT understands that agreement has been reached simply to slow the F1 cars down much more than before under the safety car.

Instead of operating to a 'delta' time of 120% of a regular F1 lap before the cars form up behind the safety car, as under the old regulations, drivers will instead be forced to slow down to the actual estimated speed of the safety car itself."


So it seems the gist of it is that when the safety car is deployed the cars all have to slow to the estimated speed of the safety car rather than drive to a 'delta' time as before.

First thing that popped in to my head is what happens when you have 2 cars dicing for position, car behind eyeing a pass car in front sees the warning first and slams on the anchors to get to 'estimated safety car speed' and then....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOBKA9q_DWU&fea...

Or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CasDD887A9w&fea...

I know accidents have happened under the current regs but this idea seems to be asking for trouble if you ask me

[Happy Harvick]

Wouldn't the best idea to do what the Americans do? Shutdown the pitlane until the SC has caught the pack which have come in at their own speed? All this timing nonsense is one other thing to think about when you're piloting something that wants to kill you whenever possible whilst watching for marshals/bits of car/Sauber front wing...

[Redlake27]

Does this mean the end of bunching up for a safety car restart? If a driver is half a lap behind and has to do the speed of the S/C, the field will be in exactly the same track positions on the restart.

If I have understood that correctly, that's a shame. I like safety car restarts.

[slipstream 1985]

why not as soon as safety car deployed all cars have their pit lane speed limiter activated. easyly to do remotely at the same time for everyone,

[stemll]

Could easily go back to having a closed pitlane. Only removed it because of people having to stop because they were running out of fuel to had to pit and take a penalty for it but, with no refuelling, that is no longer a problem.

Downside is that everyone pits at the same time so increasing the danger of collision in the pit lane itself.

[FourWheelDrift]

slipstream 1985 said:

why not as soon as safety car deployed all cars have their pit lane speed limiter activated. easyly to do remotely at the same time for everyone,

How would that work when travelling at 200mph, slam the brakes on?

Another Webber flying lesson if the car in front had better brakes.

Best thing to do as above is close the pitlane and shuffle the runners until they are all behind it in the right order. No one needs to pit because they aren't running out of fuel.

[onomatopoeia]

Happy Harvick said:

Wouldn't the best idea to do what the Americans do? Shutdown the pitlane until the SC has caught the pack which have come in at their own speed?

And allow the teams two pit bays so they cars can pit simultaneously.

[FourWheelDrift]

onomatopoeia said:

Happy Harvick said:

Wouldn't the best idea to do what the Americans do? Shutdown the pitlane until the SC has caught the pack which have come in at their own speed?

And allow the teams two pit bays so they cars can pit simultaneously.

Some circuits don't have the space.

[slipstream 1985]

FourWheelDrift said:

slipstream 1985 said:

why not as soon as safety car deployed all cars have their pit lane speed limiter activated. easyly to do remotely at the same time for everyone,

How would that work when travelling at 200mph, slam the brakes on?

Another Webber flying lesson if the car in front had better brakes.

Best thing to do as above is close the pitlane and shuffle the runners until they are all behind it in the right order. No one needs to pit because they aren't running out of fuel.

im just an idea's man, il throw them out there YOU make them work

[PabloTeK]

FourWheelDrift said:

onomatopoeia said:

Happy Harvick said:

Wouldn't the best idea to do what the Americans do? Shutdown the pitlane until the SC has caught the pack which have come in at their own speed?

And allow the teams two pit bays so they cars can pit simultaneously.

Some circuits don't have the space.

Have you ever seen the old half-mile ovals like Martinsville and Bristol?! They get 43 pit boxes in there, tighter than a waterfowl though

In any case the stacking stops teams being able to get out at once and being that pitlanes like Interlagos and Spa are too small methinks collisions would be the order of the day in the rain...

[indigorallye]

Why don't they have another safety car half way round the lap?
Wherever the lead car, or incident is on the track determines which safety car is deployed.