So...Texas Tilke Track coming.......
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AUSTIN, Texas (AP) -- Race promoters are set to reveal the Austin-area site of the track to be built for the return of Formula One racing to the United States.
Race promoters have scheduled a Tuesday news conference in Austin to talk about the track and the U.S. Grand Prix race that Formula One officials have said will run in Austin for 10 years starting in 2012.
Race promoters must first build a track. They say it would be the first built in the U.S. specifically designed for a Grand Prix event.
The German firm Tilke has been hired to design the venue. Tilke has built racetracks in Abu Dhabi, Bahrain, Shanghai and Istanbul among other cities.
Formula One hasn't raced in the U.S. since 2007 after an eight-year run at Indianapolis Motor Speedway.
Race promoters have scheduled a Tuesday news conference in Austin to talk about the track and the U.S. Grand Prix race that Formula One officials have said will run in Austin for 10 years starting in 2012.
Race promoters must first build a track. They say it would be the first built in the U.S. specifically designed for a Grand Prix event.
The German firm Tilke has been hired to design the venue. Tilke has built racetracks in Abu Dhabi, Bahrain, Shanghai and Istanbul among other cities.
Formula One hasn't raced in the U.S. since 2007 after an eight-year run at Indianapolis Motor Speedway.
Tavo Hellmund, promoter of the Austin track that is expected to host the 2012 United States Grand Prix, says that the purpose-built Texas track will be unique.
"I would say that, hopefully, people will view it as a throwback to some of the older, traditional tracks - although obviously with the added safety features and requirements that the FIA has," said Hellmund on the Autosport website.
"It will be a track that the drivers will walk through and think: 'Man, I have to be on my best game today!'"
As with most new F1 tracks, this one has been designed by Hermann Tilke, and details of its design are due to be released shortly.
"It is going to have a really fast section, which will have some pretty challenging corners," said Hellmund.
"I am partial to a couple of sections that I've seen at Silverstone, so you could see those turn up too. There is also going to be significant elevation – probably more than 100 feet of difference from top to bottom. There will be pretty views, and I think it will be a bit of a departure from the tracks that have been built recently for F1. So, in that regard, I am excited.
"Americans will be proud of it -- and it won't be a 'cookie cutter' track. I think people in Texas will be proud of it as well.
"When you really get down to it, the drivers should be your best endorsement," he said. "They are the ones that talk, and everyone wants to hear what they have to say. So I think between access, mobility, location and then obviously the asphalt within both fences, I think we're going to be good."
"I would say that, hopefully, people will view it as a throwback to some of the older, traditional tracks - although obviously with the added safety features and requirements that the FIA has," said Hellmund on the Autosport website.
"It will be a track that the drivers will walk through and think: 'Man, I have to be on my best game today!'"
As with most new F1 tracks, this one has been designed by Hermann Tilke, and details of its design are due to be released shortly.
"It is going to have a really fast section, which will have some pretty challenging corners," said Hellmund.
"I am partial to a couple of sections that I've seen at Silverstone, so you could see those turn up too. There is also going to be significant elevation – probably more than 100 feet of difference from top to bottom. There will be pretty views, and I think it will be a bit of a departure from the tracks that have been built recently for F1. So, in that regard, I am excited.
"Americans will be proud of it -- and it won't be a 'cookie cutter' track. I think people in Texas will be proud of it as well.
"When you really get down to it, the drivers should be your best endorsement," he said. "They are the ones that talk, and everyone wants to hear what they have to say. So I think between access, mobility, location and then obviously the asphalt within both fences, I think we're going to be good."
FFS.
Notwithstanding that the majority of the new tracks are s
t, why can't they give the job to someone else for the sake of a different creative input? I can only think BCE has shares in Tilke or some kind of exclusive deal and using Tilke is a precondition of getting a GP.
For shame.
Notwithstanding that the majority of the new tracks are s
t, why can't they give the job to someone else for the sake of a different creative input? I can only think BCE has shares in Tilke or some kind of exclusive deal and using Tilke is a precondition of getting a GP.For shame.
hornetrider said:
FFS.
Notwithstanding that the majority of the new tracks are s
t, why can't they give the job to someone else for the sake of a different creative input? I can only think BCE has shares in Tilke or some kind of exclusive deal and using Tilke is a precondition of getting a GP.
For shame.
This months Motorsport magazine says that the circuit has already been designed and the topography gives Tilke a much better starting point than he has had in other countries. Which is a fair point.Notwithstanding that the majority of the new tracks are s
t, why can't they give the job to someone else for the sake of a different creative input? I can only think BCE has shares in Tilke or some kind of exclusive deal and using Tilke is a precondition of getting a GP.For shame.
Andy 308GTB said:
hornetrider said:
FFS.
Notwithstanding that the majority of the new tracks are s
t, why can't they give the job to someone else for the sake of a different creative input? I can only think BCE has shares in Tilke or some kind of exclusive deal and using Tilke is a precondition of getting a GP.
For shame.
This months Motorsport magazine says that the circuit has already been designed and the topography gives Tilke a much better starting point than he has had in other countries. Which is a fair point.Notwithstanding that the majority of the new tracks are s
t, why can't they give the job to someone else for the sake of a different creative input? I can only think BCE has shares in Tilke or some kind of exclusive deal and using Tilke is a precondition of getting a GP.For shame.
Eric Mc said:
Any elevation changes or is it flat?
For a track to look "traditional", it should go up and down as much as possible.
With a few exceptions, elevation changes are an essential ingrediant to a great track, in my opinion. Certainly a good proportion of'classic corners' involve going up and down hills. Imagine if Spa was flat For a track to look "traditional", it should go up and down as much as possible.

Pwig said:
Andy 308GTB said:
hornetrider said:
FFS.
Notwithstanding that the majority of the new tracks are s
t, why can't they give the job to someone else for the sake of a different creative input? I can only think BCE has shares in Tilke or some kind of exclusive deal and using Tilke is a precondition of getting a GP.
For shame.
This months Motorsport magazine says that the circuit has already been designed and the topography gives Tilke a much better starting point than he has had in other countries. Which is a fair point.Notwithstanding that the majority of the new tracks are s
t, why can't they give the job to someone else for the sake of a different creative input? I can only think BCE has shares in Tilke or some kind of exclusive deal and using Tilke is a precondition of getting a GP.For shame.
hornetrider said:
FFS.
Notwithstanding that the majority of the new tracks are s
t, why can't they give the job to someone else for the sake of a different creative input? I can only think BCE has shares in Tilke or some kind of exclusive deal and using Tilke is a precondition of getting a GP.
For shame.
Tilke Engineering is the FIA's official contractor for Grand Prix tracks. An exclusive deal, therefore no competition.Notwithstanding that the majority of the new tracks are s
t, why can't they give the job to someone else for the sake of a different creative input? I can only think BCE has shares in Tilke or some kind of exclusive deal and using Tilke is a precondition of getting a GP.For shame.
Tilke is capable of creating interesting tracks. Istanbul, for example.
The proposed area for Austin seems to have the right kind of topography for a "classic"-looking circuit.
Edited by Jungles on Wednesday 28th July 13:41
Jungles said:
hornetrider said:
FFS.
Notwithstanding that the majority of the new tracks are s
t, why can't they give the job to someone else for the sake of a different creative input? I can only think BCE has shares in Tilke or some kind of exclusive deal and using Tilke is a precondition of getting a GP.
For shame.
Tilke Engineering is the FIA's official contractor for Grand Prix tracks. An exclusive deal, therefore no competition.Notwithstanding that the majority of the new tracks are s
t, why can't they give the job to someone else for the sake of a different creative input? I can only think BCE has shares in Tilke or some kind of exclusive deal and using Tilke is a precondition of getting a GP.For shame.
Tilke is capable of creating interesting tracks. Istanbul, for example.
The proposed area for Austin seems to have the right kind of topography for a "classic"-loosing circuit.
Mazda Baiter said:
Jungles said:
hornetrider said:
FFS.
Notwithstanding that the majority of the new tracks are s
t, why can't they give the job to someone else for the sake of a different creative input? I can only think BCE has shares in Tilke or some kind of exclusive deal and using Tilke is a precondition of getting a GP.
For shame.
Tilke Engineering is the FIA's official contractor for Grand Prix tracks. An exclusive deal, therefore no competition.Notwithstanding that the majority of the new tracks are s
t, why can't they give the job to someone else for the sake of a different creative input? I can only think BCE has shares in Tilke or some kind of exclusive deal and using Tilke is a precondition of getting a GP.For shame.
Tilke is capable of creating interesting tracks. Istanbul, for example.
The proposed area for Austin seems to have the right kind of topography for a "classic"-loosing circuit.
Article here, and quite a lot of good sense talked too. I especially like
Richard Phillips said:
We thought that if we were going to change the track we should take care of the circuit first, fit in the run-off areas, and then sort out the buildings afterwards.
Which is a stark contrast to what seems to be the Ecclestone/Tilke philosophy of building a swanky great media centre, flash corporate boxes and the 5,000 sq ft pit garages, then fitting a circuit round the T shirt stalls and so forth.Good for them
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