MINI in rallying...
MINI in rallying...
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MiniMadMike

Original Poster:

781 posts

227 months

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

262 months

Tuesday 27th July 2010
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Good news, even if it has been possibly the worst kept secret in Motorsport this year biggrin

FWDRacer

3,565 posts

253 months

Tuesday 27th July 2010
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Countryman. Trust me - this is little more than a sparco rallye jacketed marketing exercise.

The "Brand" is in tatters.

Jordan210

5,199 posts

212 months

Tuesday 27th July 2010
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Here is an sketch of what the car could look like from Prodirve.


Captain Flashman

653 posts

200 months

Tuesday 27th July 2010
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will it be AWD? I'd like an AWD mini...

Castrol Craig

18,073 posts

235 months

Tuesday 27th July 2010
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Captain Flashman said:
will it be AWD? I'd like an AWD mini...
FWD as per super 2000 rules for 2011.

esuuv

1,420 posts

234 months

Tuesday 27th July 2010
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Captain Flashman said:
will it be AWD? I'd like an AWD mini...
and they'll sell you one www.mini.co.uk/countryman

llewop

3,956 posts

240 months

Tuesday 27th July 2010
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Castrol Craig said:
Captain Flashman said:
will it be AWD? I'd like an AWD mini...
FWD as per super 2000 rules for 2011.
are you sure about that?

wrc.com said:
From 2011 the championship will switch to the next generation of top-level rally cars, based around a four-wheel drive S2000-type car with a 1600cc turbocharged engine.
saw the Countryman at Goodwood, will be interesting to see how they turn that into a (S2000) WRC

but in any case I'm looking forward to seeing how they do, there needs to be more competition in WRC or it will just fade away

Allyc85

7,225 posts

215 months

Tuesday 27th July 2010
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Great to see another manufacturer enter the WRC at last biggrin

fingers crossed Kris Meeke will get one of the seats as hes been bloody fast in what ever he has driven!

Ranger 6

7,660 posts

278 months

Tuesday 27th July 2010
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Castrol Craig said:
Captain Flashman said:
will it be AWD? I'd like an AWD mini...
FWD as per super 2000 rules for 2011.
Is S2000 going back to Fwd?

They might as well do this then.....


Castrol Craig

18,073 posts

235 months

Tuesday 27th July 2010
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llewop said:
Castrol Craig said:
Captain Flashman said:
will it be AWD? I'd like an AWD mini...
FWD as per super 2000 rules for 2011.
are you sure about that?

wrc.com said:
From 2011 the championship will switch to the next generation of top-level rally cars, based around a four-wheel drive S2000-type car with a 1600cc turbocharged engine.
saw the Countryman at Goodwood, will be interesting to see how they turn that into a (S2000) WRC

but in any case I'm looking forward to seeing how they do, there needs to be more competition in WRC or it will just fade away
it was on a few sites that super 2000 in 2011 would be 2wd only

poprock

1,987 posts

230 months

Tuesday 27th July 2010
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… And it was in the Mini/Prodrive press release that they’re building a 4WD car to enter it. Someone’s mistaken, I wonder who?

Edited by poprock on Tuesday 27th July 17:03

Castrol Craig

18,073 posts

235 months

Tuesday 27th July 2010
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poprock said:
… And it was in the Mini/Prodrive press release that they’re building a 4WD car to enter it. Someone’s mistaken, I wonder who?

Edited by poprock on Tuesday 27th July 17:03
take a guess

poprock

1,987 posts

230 months

Tuesday 27th July 2010
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From the press release:

“The powerful heart of the racing car is a 1.6-litre, four-cylinder turbo-charged engine from BMW Motorsport. The car complies with the new Super2000 regulations put in place by the International Automobile Federation (FIA), which stipulate the use of turbo engines with 1,600 cc displacement and four-wheel drive combined with an increased emphasis on road relevant technologies.”

That’s 4WD, with a 1.6l turbo engine.

From what I can find online of the S2000 rules, 4WD is permitted in rallying. It’s only in touring cars that they restrict cars to 2WD. It also looks like turbocharging isn’t allowed though, so something is still amiss.

The Mini is scheduled to run a few races in 2011 and then enter the full 2012 season. Could that timescale be anything to do with a change in rules?


Edited by poprock on Tuesday 27th July 17:34

MonkeyHanger

9,267 posts

271 months

Tuesday 27th July 2010
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The 2011 WRC spec was changed from 2.0 litre NA to 1.6 Turbo at a WMSC meeting in June. Transmission is S2000 (4WD) as are Electronics. They will also be allowed additional Aerodynamic bits n bobs. There will also be a WRC "Cup" for S2000 cars.

S2000 as in the IRC, stays as it is now AFAIK.

touring fan

376 posts

241 months

Tuesday 27th July 2010
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MonkeyHanger said:
The 2011 WRC spec was changed from 2.0 litre NA to 1.6 Turbo at a WMSC meeting in June.
Errrm, current WRC cars are not normally aspirated. They are 2 litre turbo.

MonkeyHanger

9,267 posts

271 months

Tuesday 27th July 2010
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touring fan said:
MonkeyHanger said:
The 2011 WRC spec was changed from 2.0 litre NA to 1.6 Turbo at a WMSC meeting in June.
Errrm, current WRC cars are not normally aspirated. They are 2 litre turbo.
What part of "2011 spec" confuses you then ? 2011 WRC was originally S2000. i.e. 2 litre NA.

Allyc85

7,225 posts

215 months

Tuesday 27th July 2010
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How hard can it be to understand...

Maybe now I see why the FIA tries to dumb things down for the fans....

poprock

1,987 posts

230 months

Wednesday 28th July 2010
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Allyc85 said:
How hard can it be to understand...

Maybe now I see why the FIA tries to dumb things down for the fans....
I don’t think it’s hard to understand, just hard to find the actual rules online for reference. Googling them brings up page after page of hearsay and rumour.