James Hunt....impressed!
James Hunt....impressed!
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Kitchski

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6,551 posts

260 months

Friday 24th September 2010
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Just finished his biography; definately a character wasn't he?! Sadly all his racing ended before I was born and I don't remember the commentary. F1 is just a bit less interesting now isn't it?! Still has me hooked though.

Munter

31,331 posts

270 months

Friday 24th September 2010
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James Hunt telling it as it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khA67-r5lSQ

Eric Mc

125,607 posts

294 months

Friday 24th September 2010
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I think Brundle is far better in the role of co-commentator than Hunt ever was.

Kitchski

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260 months

Friday 24th September 2010
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Can't view youtube on my phone, but was that the bullst comment? I've seen that! Couldn't comment whether Brundle is better obviously, but he's certainly invaluble to the current format.

Stack

795 posts

216 months

Friday 24th September 2010
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When I look at old F1 footage I actually think Hunt was a pretty average commentator (despite me liking him at the time)

I think his anti Ricardo Patrese stance - evident in most commentaries was a disgace. He still never had the balls to apologise to Ricardo.


Munter

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270 months

Friday 24th September 2010
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Kitchski said:
Can't view youtube on my phone, but was that the bullst comment?
Yes. Makes me giggle that he sounds like someone posting on here.

Kitchski

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6,551 posts

260 months

Friday 24th September 2010
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Stack said:
When I look at old F1 footage I actually think Hunt was a pretty average commentator (despite me liking him at the time) I think his anti Ricardo Patrese stance - evident in most commentaries was a disgace. He still never had the balls to apologise to Ricardo.
I read that he did want to sit down and straighten it out with Patrese but he wasn't having any of it.

rdjohn

7,156 posts

224 months

Friday 24th September 2010
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It was James Hunt‘s campaigns of 76 & 77 that first really attracted me to F1, the fact that the BBC started to televise the whole race then really cemented my obsession. Before then, you were stuck with delayed reports in Motorsport and newspapers.

James Hunt was genuinely charismatic and he Barry Sheen easily held high public esteem, much as Lewis and Jensen do now.

He was obviously a very complex guy, from tennis player to budgerigar collector; playboy to alcoholic, but he was very special.

His TV commentaries were the perfect foil to Murray Walker’s “enthusiast’s” approach; to listen to someone who had actually “been there” was completely new, the fact that he said outrageous things that would not normally be said on the BBC at that time was even better. However, I completely agree with Stack and the Patrese thing.

Brundle is the perfect man for TV now and I seriously doubt that he will be bettered, but at the time, before Gordon Ramsey rants became the norm, James Hunt was brilliant.

Eric Mc

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294 months

Friday 24th September 2010
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I enjoyed Hunt's coommentaries at the time and was deeply saddened when he died. His replacement, Jonathan Palmer, was mediocre in the extreme.

Brundle picked up the mantle from Hunt and has become the benchmark for all future F1 co-commentators.

Stack

795 posts

216 months

Friday 24th September 2010
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Kitchski said:
Stack said:
When I look at old F1 footage I actually think Hunt was a pretty average commentator (despite me liking him at the time)

I think his anti Ricardo Patrese stance - evident in most commentaries was a disgace. He still never had the balls to apologise to Ricardo.
I read that he did want to sit down and straighten it out with Patrese but he wasn't having any of it.
No chance
I read a recent Patrese article , by Nigel Roebuck I think & it is totally the other way round Patrese is a pretty laid back Guy ....

2volvos

660 posts

230 months

Friday 24th September 2010
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On the BBC red button coverage of old Italian GPs recently, they showed the '91 race. Senna was leading but being hassled by Mansell and Patrese in the Williams, both of whom could have been going faster. Mansell lets Patrese through to have a pop at Senna and he gets through to the lead, only to spin out a couple of laps later.

Anyway the point of all this is that Hunt was quite dismissive of Patrese spinning out in the lead, but later in the race it transpires that it was down to a gearbox fault and Hunt was then quite magnanimous, apologising and admitting his error.

I always think that Hunt and Keith Floyd were seperated at birth.

Stack

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216 months

Friday 24th September 2010
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2volvos said:
I always think that Hunt and Keith Floyd were seperated at birth.
Absolutely !


CampDavid

9,145 posts

227 months

Friday 24th September 2010
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Walker and Hunt were an unbeatable combination. Such a shame he died so young.

ginettajoe

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247 months

Friday 24th September 2010
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Eric Mc said:
I think Brundle is far better in the role of co-commentator than Hunt ever was.
In no way, shape or form is that the case! The Murray Walker/James Hunt combination was the ultimate, adding humour, interest and down to earth conversation!! televised F1 has never been the same since!!

Eric Mc

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294 months

Friday 24th September 2010
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ginettajoe said:
Eric Mc said:
I think Brundle is far better in the role of co-commentator than Hunt ever was.
In no way, shape or form is that the case! The Murray Walker/James Hunt combination was the ultimate, adding humour, interest and down to earth conversation!! televised F1 has never been the same since!!
I agree the Hunt/Walker combination worked well - eventually. You should hear what Murray thought of James BEFORE they were teamed up and how the initial relationship was anything but good.

I will still stand by my contention that Brundle is the best co-commentator there has been in UK F1 coverage. His problem is that he has not had a good quality commentator alongside him.



Edited by Eric Mc on Friday 24th September 12:32

heebeegeetee

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277 months

Friday 24th September 2010
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Eric Mc said:
I think Brundle is far better in the role of co-commentator than Hunt ever was.
Don't agree there, though the science of broadcasting and commentating has come on a couple generations since Hunt's time.

Eric Mc

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Friday 24th September 2010
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heebeegeetee said:
Eric Mc said:
I think Brundle is far better in the role of co-commentator than Hunt ever was.
Don't agree there, though the science of broadcasting and commentating has come on a couple generations since Hunt's time.
I wouldn't think technology has much of an effect on opinions and insight.

"Commentary" isn't a science. It's a skill.

I'm not saying Hunt was bad. Far from it. But I prefer Brundle.

In fact, back in the 80s and early 90s, Brundle did actually step in when Hunt wasn't available (and Brundle was in one of his driverless spell) and he was good then too - using the same technology as Hunt.

Stack

795 posts

216 months

Friday 24th September 2010
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Eric Mc said:
I will still stand by my contention that Brundle is the best co-commentator there has been in UK F1 coverage. His problem is that he has not had a good quality commentator alongside him.
Totally agree

heebeegeetee

30,133 posts

277 months

Friday 24th September 2010
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Stack said:
Eric Mc said:
I will still stand by my contention that Brundle is the best co-commentator there has been in UK F1 coverage. His problem is that he has not had a good quality commentator alongside him.
Totally agree
Brundle is absolutely superb, but I'm sure if James was still with us he'd be still providing plenty of entertainment, just like Niki Lauda does. smile

Brundle and Hunt for a commentary team? biggrin

Motorrad

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