The Official Korean GP Thread....With Spoilers......
The Official Korean GP Thread....With Spoilers......
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Castrol Craig

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18,073 posts

235 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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So, its on!

looks an interesting race weekend, lack of track knowledge will be a leveller, so im going kobayashi banzai style to 6th, massa 5th, vettel 4th, jenson 3rd, hamilton 2nd, webber 1st.



woof

8,456 posts

306 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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I guess they couldn't cancel it - as long as there's a track, kerbs, barriers and a press centre - though expect that some drivers will be late getting back to the grid for the start as they'll only be one toilet for them to share.

Will team orders be used ... Perhaps Massa will finally be a number 1 in the team

"Felipe ? Alonso has a number 2 - do you understand ?"


DangerousMike

11,327 posts

221 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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lack of track knowledge will be a leveller?

it takes about 10 laps max to learn a circuit for a decent F1 driver, plus they will all have driven it in simulators.

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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DangerousMike said:
lack of track knowledge will be a leveller?

it takes about 10 laps max to learn a circuit for a decent F1 driver, plus they will all have driven it in simulators.
They've all driven it on their simulators, but remember the tarmac hasn't been driven on yet. So the track will actually be settling as it's driven on, it might go lumpy and bumpy, it might start breaking up, and it's going to be incredibly dusty. They are going to have very little idea of where the grip is from session to session which will be really interesting.

DangerousMike

11,327 posts

221 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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i agree, but i don't regard it as a leveller.

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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7-8-9 and 12-13-14 will be strong for Red Bull, but I think they're just going to get monstered down those straights.

BelperJim

2,505 posts

212 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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Does anybody know where to find pictures of the track?

Having had a quick go on it on F1 2010 I'm going to go with Alonso, Webber, Hamilton top 3.

woof

8,456 posts

306 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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Mclarens should be strong here. Long straights and Webber has already said they will be vulnerable to an attack on the first lap because of Mclaren superior F duct and top speed


plg

4,106 posts

239 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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Reading a few postings this morning - does anyone know about tarmac behaviour?

How long does it take to "cure"? As the top layer will be leaching out oil for some weeks/months - is this a risk - or will it just make it a very low grip surface compared to a matured track? Is there a risk of it breaking up?

woof

8,456 posts

306 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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there's a big chance that the tarmac will lift or break up.

It takes 12 months for a track to settle - but that of course is normal.

Chuggaboom

1,152 posts

277 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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woof said:
Mclarens should be strong here. Long straights and Webber has already said they will be vulnerable to an attack on the first lap because of Mclaren superior F duct and top speed
No problem for him with the points lead he has....3rd will be fine as long as no DNF's in the remaining 2 after.

snorkel sucker

2,717 posts

232 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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woof said:
there's a big chance that the tarmac will lift or break up.

It takes 12 months for a track to settle - but that of course is normal.
not sure how long the surface has been down for already but its biggest issue will be the fact its not been used for any motorsport in anger as yet.

i wouldnt imagine it would break up - am assuming that this question formed part of the general inspection - but it might well offer up some anomalies in braking zones and certain corners e.g. localised settlement, small cambers forming. Over the course of a race, with the fuel load decreasing, this could lead to a few errors/mistakes being made.

All good for entertainment though!

BelperJim

2,505 posts

212 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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I think rippling in the braking zones is usually a problem on new surfaces.

MikeWdriver

164 posts

209 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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Mark Webber does a simulation guide to the new international circuit in Yeongam.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula...

Del 203

12,728 posts

278 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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MikeWdriver said:
Mark Webber does a simulation guide to the new international circuit in Yeongam.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula...
Blimey.... Pointy finger didn't take him out !!!

Dogsey

4,301 posts

259 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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Del 203 said:
MikeWdriver said:
Mark Webber does a simulation guide to the new international circuit in Yeongam.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula...
Blimey.... Pointy finger didn't take him out !!!
Watched that just before coming in here to see if someone else had posted it. Two things struck me as unrealistic, at no point did they take each other out and the front wings didn't seem to be flexing.

hehe

team underdog

938 posts

258 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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Circuit looks like an Istanbul/Valencia/Abu Dhabi mix up to me, and I seem to recall Red Bull being strong at all those tracks! I think Mclaren will be a lot closer than they were in Suzuka though.

As well as the question mark over the tarmac, it will be interesting to see how the tyre compounds react to the new track surface throughout the weekend as the circuit rubbers up.

BoRED S2upid

21,035 posts

269 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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Qualy:

Vet
Ham
Alonso
Web
But
Kubica

Race

Web
Alonso
But
Kubica

I wonder where Ham and Vet go wink

fullbeem

2,044 posts

230 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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Sorry for me McLaren will still has reliability issues hung over from Japan.

Webber, Vettel, Alonso for me in Korea

Scuffers

20,887 posts

303 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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fullbeem said:
Sorry for me McLaren will still has reliability issues hung over from Japan.

Webber, Vettel, Alonso for me in Korea
that's a rather odd comment? Yes, they had a box issue, they will have changed it, where's the issue going forward?

care to elaborate?