Challenge info ?
Challenge info ?
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speedy7

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182 posts

289 months

Wednesday 20th October 2010
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This must be a stupied question BUT I am going to ask it as I am a bit dim ?

Do the cars that run in the challenge all run engine(s) that have at one time been available in a TVR ? or can you run any engine ? confused

Thanks

Chassis 33

6,194 posts

311 months

Wednesday 20th October 2010
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My understanding of the regs (as backed up by JR) is that you can run anything, solong as you meet the PTW for the class.

Regards
Iain

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,553 posts

242 months

Thursday 21st October 2010
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Iain is right, but most people race TVR's due to being fans of the mark, so nearly everyone runs a Engine in the spirit of TVR, i.e. a Engine they have used, or a variation or one that would or should have run i.e. the LS

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Thursday 21st October 2010
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Class C. based on an original motor used in the model up to 3ltr...possible non standard motor to a p/w restriction but would need to be agreed with series co-ordinator

Class B. anything goes up to 350bhp

Class A. fill yer boots there are a couple of tuscans using old skool chevys, and the sags running Ls motors..



tbdgriff500

1,647 posts

232 months

Thursday 21st October 2010
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Graham said:
Class B. anything goes up to 350bhp
ajp redcard;)getmecoat

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,553 posts

242 months

Thursday 21st October 2010
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Copy of the Regulations I have for 2010

5.2 General Description
The Dunlop TVR Challenge is for Competitors participating in cars manufactured by TVR Engineering Limited. The challenge will include three classes as follows:

Class A, cars distinguished by white roundel or square backgrounds with black numbers. Up to 3.litre with forced induction/turbo/supercharger/ above 325 Bhp, above 5.0 litre and 325 Bhp.

Class B, cars distinguished by a yellow roundel or square number back ground with black numbers.
Cars between 176 and 300 Bhp per ton measured at the wheels, all other cars than those running a normally aspirated Rover V8 engine between 3 and 4 litres in capacity must run data logger. Forced induction allowed up to class Bhp/Ton limits, all cars with forced induction must run a data logger.

Class C, cars distinguished by blue roundel or square backgrounds with black numbers.
Cars upto 3 litre * without data logger 3 & 4 litres restricted to 175 Bhp/Ton limit and must run a data logger.NO V8 in class ‘C’

Forced injection allowed but subject to the 175Bhp/Ton and must run a data logger. Cars running modified engine contact Co-Coordinator…..

Invitation Class
The organisers reserve the right to invite other vehicles to race in the invitation class. These vehicles must comply with the relevant Series/Challenge regulations in which the vehicle was originally built to race in.

Data Logging.
Where regulations require it drivers must provide a DL1 data logger fitted with and working in the car and have a minimum of 2 data cards ready for each meeting, it will be the drivers responsibility to start the logger as the cars leave the holding area, the data card will be collected by the challenge data officer for analysis immediately after
cars leave the circuit, cars maybe required to weighed as they leave the circuit. Each car subject to Data logging (B & C) will be required to provide 3 data traces of coast down test before they enter the challenge. At any event there may be a requirement to provide a further coast down test to compare with these samples.
Power to weight figures for all controlled cars will be published, all other data remains confidential to the competitor.

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Thursday 21st October 2010
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tbdgriff500 said:
Graham said:
Class B. anything goes up to 350bhp
ajp redcard;)getmecoat
good point but one of the things that should be reviewed imho... if it meets the p/w 300/325/350 or whatever measured at the flywheel/wheels/pub then it should probably be in B...


when the last discussions were had in 2009 it was agreed a drop from 350/ton at the wheels to 325/ton at the wheels for B. I think the version of the regs leigh has is in error stating 300.. as it should be B <=325 A >325

Which is a figure I've seen at least 2 road going TVR's break with a Rv8.

Hopefully some clearer Regs will be out shortly.

G

tbdgriff500

1,647 posts

232 months

Thursday 21st October 2010
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i don't care either way A or B as long as i get a good race with at least one other car like i have had at every race throughout the season, even with my problems i still had a fantastic battle in every race, loved every minute of it and am now on a bit of a downer knowing its a long dark cold boring winter without racing!!
but i have made my decision to stick with my car and do a little bit more development over the winter, i will be back in A or B depending on the rules,
gagging for it already, with all the buzz of the new cars being built and hopefully the tvr's in the racing classifieds being sold to new guys next year will be a corker!!

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Thursday 21st October 2010
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Yep close racing is what its all about. It is very difficult with such wide ranging cars to get the classes perfect, but I dont think we're far away, as the cars do seem to fall generally into the 3 groups. with the quicker/more experienced guys in one class overlapping into the next class..


Good to hear that your sticking with the Rv8 Tuscan, too many people seem to end up constantly changing or re-developing cars, and the biggest and cheapest time gains are usually made in the driver getting seat time. Certainly for me anyway.. My philosophy has been to spend time to learn the car, keep it as consistant as you can and go from there.. once you start to learn a car you also start to learn how to drive. The fact I know my car well is the reason I can only do a few races in it a year and be straight on the pace.

teamHOLDENracing

5,105 posts

296 months

Thursday 21st October 2010
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speedy7 said:
This must be a stupied question BUT I am going to ask it as I am a bit dim ?

Do the cars that run in the challenge all run engine(s) that have at one time been available in a TVR ? or can you run any engine ? confused

Thanks
Is this question prompted by a 'if I buy your T400 and stick a Chevy LS engine in it, where can I race it' query?

speedy7

Original Poster:

182 posts

289 months

Thursday 21st October 2010
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teamHOLDENracing said:
speedy7 said:
This must be a stupied question BUT I am going to ask it as I am a bit dim ?

Do the cars that run in the challenge all run engine(s) that have at one time been available in a TVR ? or can you run any engine ? confused

Thanks
Is this question prompted by a 'if I buy your T400 and stick a Chevy LS engine in it, where can I race it' query?
No not that but the T400R would be a great tool in the TVR series as they had not that much BHP but had everything else in bundles.

Obiwonkeyblokey

5,400 posts

269 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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I have such an appetite for a T400, however a combination of Tuscan and crash have put paid to any wallet emptying action for the forseeable, however if there was one race car I would want to own it would be that one. Run it in the TVR and Britcar series, perfect.

Good luck with the sale if it goes, and whatever happens it would be wonderful to see it back on a track somewhere.

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,553 posts

242 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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Obiwonkeyblokey said:
I have such an appetite for a T400, however a combination of Tuscan and crash have put paid to any wallet emptying action for the forseeable, however if there was one race car I would want to own it would be that one. Run it in the TVR and Britcar series, perfect.
You not the only one, would also love to see them back out there racing.
Have to stop myself looking, as selling my house soon.

kg55

734 posts

268 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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TVRleigh_BBWR said:
Obiwonkeyblokey said:
I have such an appetite for a T400, however a combination of Tuscan and crash have put paid to any wallet emptying action for the forseeable, however if there was one race car I would want to own it would be that one. Run it in the TVR and Britcar series, perfect.
You not the only one, would also love to see them back out there racing.
Have to stop myself looking, as selling my house soon.
Get it leigh you know it makes sense!!!!

Keithyboy

1,940 posts

299 months

Saturday 23rd October 2010
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Graham said:
Yep close racing is what its all about. It is very difficult with such wide ranging cars to get the classes perfect, but I dont think we're far away, as the cars do seem to fall generally into the 3 groups. with the quicker/more experienced guys in one class overlapping into the next class..


Good to hear that your sticking with the Rv8 Tuscan, too many people seem to end up constantly changing or re-developing cars, and the biggest and cheapest time gains are usually made in the driver getting seat time. Certainly for me anyway.. My philosophy has been to spend time to learn the car, keep it as consistant as you can and go from there.. once you start to learn a car you also start to learn how to drive. The fact I know my car well is the reason I can only do a few races in it a year and be straight on the pace.
I think Tim's sticking with the AJP Graham wink , I'm staying with the RV8! biggrin

speedy7

Original Poster:

182 posts

289 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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kg55 said:
TVRleigh_BBWR said:
Obiwonkeyblokey said:
I have such an appetite for a T400, however a combination of Tuscan and crash have put paid to any wallet emptying action for the forseeable, however if there was one race car I would want to own it would be that one. Run it in the TVR and Britcar series, perfect.
You not the only one, would also love to see them back out there racing.
Have to stop myself looking, as selling my house soon.
Get it leigh you know it makes sense!!!!
We have some spare T400R bodywork for your car ? You know it makes sense ! cool

Edited by speedy7 on Sunday 24th October 23:03

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,553 posts

242 months

Tuesday 15th February 2011
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Very Please to see this is now staying in the UK, and going to be out in the Challenge for a few rounds, one car I'll be happy to see go past me wink

Obiwonkeyblokey

5,400 posts

269 months

Thursday 17th February 2011
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was it sold or is the original owner runnning it?

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,553 posts

242 months

Thursday 17th February 2011
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Obiwonkeyblokey said:
was it sold or is the original owner runnning it?
Looks like the original owner, from the posts, but not 100%

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Thursday 17th February 2011
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Its Still owned By Antony and he'll be running it this season.