BBC f1 coverage switch to bbc2...crap or what?
BBC f1 coverage switch to bbc2...crap or what?
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remoh

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147 posts

293 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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Had to record the race today like many people only to find that the bbc in their inifinte wisdom decided to switch the f1 coverage to bbc2 and put andrew frigging marr on instead...

why couldnt they just switch andrew marr to bbc and be done with it?

Is this giving license payers real value?

Anyone else a bit narked?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/forms/


snoopstah

391 posts

252 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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Second half isn't on iPlayer yet either.

Edited by snoopstah on Sunday 24th October 12:21

ridds

8,371 posts

273 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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Complete joke, Sky+ cut it off, switched to iplayer, that stopped when it switched to BBC2 and then they tell you the result as you're trying to find the rest of the race.

Highlights condense the last 15 laps into about 2mins 30.....

Perhaps I should have gotten up at 6am.

Killer2005

20,585 posts

257 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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ridds said:
Perhaps I should have gotten up at 6am.
yes

Or perhaps watch the full re-run at 2 on BBC1?

Eric Mc

125,607 posts

294 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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Or watch it on the red button or watch it live on iPlayer or watch it live on BBC F1.

It just goes to show that no matter how many alternatives a broadcaster gives to viewers, there will always be some who find that the broadcast was flawed in some way or other.

You can't please all of the people all of time etc etc etc.

scenario8

7,911 posts

208 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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So, due to events in Korea resources on scheduling would be challenged, and a specific programme would be extended by around 90 minutes. A difficult decision was made by an individual or individuals in the understanding that any decision or no decision at all would lead to various consequences for various individuals.

Someone had to make a difficult decision, no doubt challenged on the wisdom, but a call was made. For some people this would be a bit of a pain. THe good news is that coverage continued live, on a terrestrial channel, a seperate digital channel, on the internet and on a digital radio station. The repeated coverage would be unaffected. Some elements of the iplayer coverage would be affected, but ultimately the whole broadcast would be made available there too.

Inevitably some will not find this sufficient. With all the conflicting pressures on resources I'm glad it wasn't my decision to make, but the World's still spinning for me.

Sorry you were inconvenienced.

Delboy71

1 posts

191 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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I think the main crux of the matte, for me anyway, is that I'm sitting here and it has yet to be uploaded in full or even in 2 parts on iplayer. What a technological age we live in!!!

futura

1 posts

191 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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Eric Mc said:
Or watch it on the red button or watch it live on iPlayer or watch it live on BBC F1.

It just goes to show that no matter how many alternatives a broadcaster gives to viewers, there will always be some who find that the broadcast was flawed in some way or other.

You can't please all of the people all of time etc etc etc.
get the facts right the full broadcast isnt on the red buttton, only crappy highlights. And even if they were, you might have to watch 2 hours before you get back to the point that you last watched it on sky+ !! Not on i-player either due to F1 rights.

Like the OP states, they could easily have put Andrew Marr on BBC2 and left the F1 on BBC1, after all, I suspect many more ppl watch F1 then Andrew Marr!

Thanks to the OP for the BBC complaints link, ive submitted this and would urge everyone else to do so too!

Eric Mc

125,607 posts

294 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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Funny, I watched it all on the red button live - with Radio 5 commentary.

I am on Virgin so that might make a difference.

And funnilly enough, I've watched a number of GPs this year, in their entirety, on iPlayer.


Edited by Eric Mc on Sunday 24th October 13:19

scenario8

7,911 posts

208 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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Delboy71 said:
I think the main crux of the matte, for me anyway, is that I'm sitting here and it has yet to be uploaded in full or even in 2 parts on iplayer. What a technological age we live in!!!
Yep, poor form there. That should have been fixed by now. I bet someone will get a bit of a talking to tomorrow.

GKP

15,099 posts

270 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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I made an effort to get up and watch it live. Anyone who didn't and is now moaning because their recording device got confused, can't consider themselves a proper race fan and therefore their opinion is invalid and of little consequence.











That should do it.

zac510

5,546 posts

235 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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This caused me to miss a few laps too in the switch from my recording to bbc2 live. I understand it was extraneous circumstances, though and ordinarily I am full of praise for the BBC coverage. Do any of you kids even remember what it was like to have ads in the middle of F1 at ITV? biggrin (joke)

On another matter, I don't understand why we still have BBC interactive while also having BBC3 and 4 that are only broadcasting half of the day or less.

They should merge 3 and 4 while rebranding one of them as BBC Sport (which is its own brand name already really). There's enough sport on the BBC to fill a channel. Sport overflow can go on BBC1/2/etc as it does now and extra BBC3/4 shows can fill the space left on BBC1/2.

Maybe they're waiting for the complete analogue switch off.

Trax

1,600 posts

261 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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Killer2005 said:
ridds said:
Perhaps I should have gotten up at 6am.
yes

Or perhaps watch the full re-run at 2 on BBC1?
The schedule for the 2pm start has only 2 1/4 hours allocated, so doesnt look like a full re-run, unless they miss all the build up.....

With iPlayer for some reason only showing 'Part 1', does that mean we will never be able to watch the full broadcast after the switch to BBC2?

Not a good show to be honest.

scenario8

7,911 posts

208 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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Trax said:
Killer2005 said:
ridds said:
Perhaps I should have gotten up at 6am.
yes

Or perhaps watch the full re-run at 2 on BBC1?
The schedule for the 2pm start has only 2 1/4 hours allocated, so doesnt look like a full re-run, unless they miss all the build up.....

With iPlayer for some reason only showing 'Part 1', does that mean we will never be able to watch the full broadcast after the switch to BBC2?

Not a good show to be honest.
Someone stated in another thread on the matter (seemingly with some sort of insider information) that the iplayer issue is being addressed.

I can't believe the re-run will be entirely as broadcast originally for fairly obvious reasons (not giving away much there, I hope).

Eric Mc

125,607 posts

294 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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Since the dawn of blanket live TV coverage of F1 (which actually only goes back to the 1990s), delays caused by accidents and/or weather have always messed up carefully planned TV schedules.

I have to say, with the current BBC set up, F1 fans have never had so much choice and alternative ways to watch their F1. Just be grateful that we now have these alternatives and thank your lucky stars that you aren't living in the 1970s or 80s or having to put up with ITV.

g4ry13

21,732 posts

284 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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Well I started watching the iPlayer coverage at 12 and then found out they decided not to put on the last 12 laps so here I am with it on the TV now on mute waiting for lap 40. furious

poing

8,743 posts

229 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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Complaint form done, cheers for the link!

I understand all the arguments above but it really shouldn't be that hard to make it work. I press a button on a high tech piece of kit to record a program, if things change it can't be beyond technical capabilities to make the system change to suit.

With other things I press buttons and expect them to do as instructed so I see no reason why Sky+ should be any different and I don't think I'm expecting too much or asking for the impossible here either. Series link works perfectly on other things so don't know if it's Sky or the BBC that need to sort things out but between them they should be able to make it work.

heightswitch

6,322 posts

279 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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Felt I had to send this to F1 by e-mail this morning..............

"Do you not have any comprehension of how frustrating it is to switch channels mid way through the race? And for what?? A balding Richard Widmark lookalike discussing politics!!!

For people who have set sky to record to get up 1 hr later you then completely wreck the coverage of the race.

I now have to watch the F1 forum to see all the highlights of the Key 1Hr of the race I have missed through your bizarre programming methods.

So now when I get to see the re-run at 2pm to see the 1 hour I missed I know what has happened!

Why oh Why didn't you just shovel Marr's depressing politics show to BBC2. Its not as if anyone with a life wastes their Sunday watching that!

Thanks Beeb

Neil Russell

Eric Mc

125,607 posts

294 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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Having more options does not always equate to more providing more satisfaction - just more opportunities to screw up.

Edited by Eric Mc on Sunday 24th October 14:49

snoopstah

391 posts

252 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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Finally a placeholder on iPlayer, hopefully will be working soon: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00vxfy4/Form...