The FIA strike again!!!!
The FIA strike again!!!!
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StuartMcKay

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1,138 posts

251 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/9198589...

Thats robbed fans of another potential last race championship steal from under the nose of the expected champion.

GravelBen

16,484 posts

259 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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bbc said:
Priaulx used the gearbox in the last two rounds in Japan, for which his results have now been excluded.... ...The FIA had previously said the gearboxes could be used, but in response to an appeal by Team Chevrolet that decision was overturned.
How does that work then? "Its ok, you can use it" ... "now that you've used it you're not allowed to so we'll take your points away"

Or did they use it thinking it was legal before a series of protests about whether it was allowed or not?

Edited by GravelBen on Thursday 18th November 11:06

FourWheelDrift

92,247 posts

313 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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From what I recall the BMWs ran normal gearboxes instead of added weight as a penalty for rear wheel drive. When the RAC BMWs from the BTCC entered the Brands Hatch round last year with semiautomatic boxes they were not awarded any points. Perhaps Daewoolet have pointed to that and said why?

If BMW used semiauto boxes with the extra weight penalty then I see no reason to exclude them.

But then maybe the FIA are trying to get some media exposure for a largely ignored series, or punishment for BMW for going DTM next year and taking their best drivers with them.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

262 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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That really doesn't look good at all.

From what I have seen it was a bit (okay very) naughty to do what they did, but importantly it was within the rules at the time of the 'offence'. To my mind it is akin to what Maclaren did with LH when they under-fuelled him.

Obviously I don't have all the facts but on the face this is a very bad move and if I were BMW I would be sticking 2 fingers now and looking at diverting my money to the SuperGT/DTM and ICLMS programmes.

Poor show.

SoliD

1,508 posts

246 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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This all came about because of Alex Zanardi, BMW were given a reprieve to use this gearbox for a 30kg weight drop iirc for him, and a team used it a few months back with no punishment, so BMW took took the decision to use it in Japan, where they done quite well. Although this could partially be down to the wet weather.

Then the FIA changed their minds and told BMW no you can't do that and just took the points away that they won for the weekend. Great decision making there. Ruined a championship fight good and proper.

Alfie Noakes

1,307 posts

299 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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Thats a shame. I was banking on Mr P to steal another one. He has a tremendous ability to pull rabbits out of the hat.

I wonder what would need to happen for him to do it again?

KTiM

152 posts

258 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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FourWheelDrift said:
BMW for going DTM next year and taking their best drivers with them.
Are they? - I didn't know that.

boycieboy

285 posts

231 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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If I have understood this correctly, the independent team that ran the same gear box have not had their points taken away so it only applys to RBM BMW's!
Thus no change to indie points/championship??

Surely it should apply across the board? It either is or isn't illegal???

MMC Andy

527 posts

250 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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boycieboy said:
If I have understood this correctly, the independent team that ran the same gear box have not had their points taken away so it only applys to RBM BMW's!
Thus no change to indie points/championship??

Surely it should apply across the board? It either is or isn't illegal???
But they carried the additional 30kg of weight.

FourWheelDrift

92,247 posts

313 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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KTiM said:
FourWheelDrift said:
BMW for going DTM next year and taking their best drivers with them.
Are they? - I didn't know that.
In 2012 not next year, I tapped that in earlier on my phone and didn't read it back.

webby74

569 posts

209 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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Shame as i fancied a big upset this weekend. Chevrolet worried about losing the championship so covered thier backs? Hollow victory i think.
Still roll on bmw in the dtm, hopefully with priaulx, farfus and maybe turkington jumping ship with them!
irked

KTiM

152 posts

258 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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FourWheelDrift said:
KTiM said:
FourWheelDrift said:
BMW for going DTM next year and taking their best drivers with them.
Are they? - I didn't know that.
In 2012 not next year, I tapped that in earlier on my phone and didn't read it back.
Thanks.