Schumacher's 2010 driving review/discussion
Discussion
(you just know I was going to indluge in this)
To remind yourselves of all the critical moments, here they are:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBEb8MuhSVQ
So was he a loose cannon? Wreckless? Measured? Deliberate? Skilled? Misunderstood? Bad-tempered? Incompetant? Inconsistent?
Is his reputation in tatters? Or is it good that he got to show a side of his talents that he hasn't had the opportunity to do so before, in F1 at least?
To remind yourselves of all the critical moments, here they are:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBEb8MuhSVQ
So was he a loose cannon? Wreckless? Measured? Deliberate? Skilled? Misunderstood? Bad-tempered? Incompetant? Inconsistent?
Is his reputation in tatters? Or is it good that he got to show a side of his talents that he hasn't had the opportunity to do so before, in F1 at least?
He may be the greatest ... 
... motor-racing has ever known, but I was far more fair than I could've been (believe me I was!). These are all his "successful" defensive moves, good and bad and I made as much fair comment on the good stuff as the bad. If you don't like the reality that these moves happened, I suppose you can bury your head in the sand and cover your bedroom walls in number 7's...
If I wanted to go to town on him, I'd include stuff from his earlier F1 and pre-F1 career. There's loads to choose from afterall, far too much for a 10 minute vid.
Seems to me that it was only acceptable while he was "the best", including from the pundits, but now it doesn't seem to be.
... motor-racing has ever known, but I was far more fair than I could've been (believe me I was!). These are all his "successful" defensive moves, good and bad and I made as much fair comment on the good stuff as the bad. If you don't like the reality that these moves happened, I suppose you can bury your head in the sand and cover your bedroom walls in number 7's...If I wanted to go to town on him, I'd include stuff from his earlier F1 and pre-F1 career. There's loads to choose from afterall, far too much for a 10 minute vid.
Seems to me that it was only acceptable while he was "the best", including from the pundits, but now it doesn't seem to be.
Yeah - must be Hamilton 
I'm no fan of MS, but i'm no LH fanboy either. But I am a fan of F1/Moto GP/GP2/F3/Indy Cars - Lets just say a fan of racing.
I'm pretty sure that if we could have all the current F1 drivers in the same car with equal fuel/track conditions/temps there would be tiny amounts of lap time between the top 10 or 12. Even the 'so called' slow folk like Yamamoto are very skilled drivers. They are all awesome!
PH really frustrates me at times - do you have any idea of the skill level required just to keep on of these cars on circuit at race pace for up to 2 hours, with ~20 others trying to do the same? The sheer physical effort required is beyond most. I have raced karts, tin tops and single seaters (with downforce) and I know I couldn't do it.
I'm pretty sure that if we could have all the current F1 drivers in the same car with equal fuel/track conditions/temps there would be tiny amounts of lap time between the top 10 or 12. Even the 'so called' slow folk like Yamamoto are very skilled drivers. They are all awesome!
PH really frustrates me at times - do you have any idea of the skill level required just to keep on of these cars on circuit at race pace for up to 2 hours, with ~20 others trying to do the same? The sheer physical effort required is beyond most. I have raced karts, tin tops and single seaters (with downforce) and I know I couldn't do it.
^ Yep. The villan has entertained me more in one season, than he has in 1991 - 2006 combined. I mean that. I have been entertained. During the event and in retrospect.
There's a reason for that. It's because my opinion is sound.
C'mon, admit the obvious, Schumi drove like a twonk this season. The most plublically embarrassing one ever, especially given the highs he had attained before. The only thing I can't work out, is if this was because, when compared to today's standards, he's crap/incompetant [and always has been] or if this was all deliberate?
Kinky said:
You can say all the crap you want; but I'm not listening or in the slightest bit interested ... like many on here.
Except that you keep replying? And isn't crap empty words with nothing to back them up? Which seems more like what you're saying that what I am[ and what I submit as evidence]?Kinky said:
You're entitled to your opinion of course, but it's just a shame you're so blinkered by it.
I'm not blinkered by it at all. My opinion is based entirely in the relms of empiricism, just like all my opinions. Where Schumi does good stuff, I applaud it. Where he does bad stuff, I cuss it. I go by the event on that vid, not a predecided angle. It's just that the evidence backs-up the opinion I've had for years. There's a reason for that. It's because my opinion is sound.
C'mon, admit the obvious, Schumi drove like a twonk this season. The most plublically embarrassing one ever, especially given the highs he had attained before. The only thing I can't work out, is if this was because, when compared to today's standards, he's crap/incompetant [and always has been] or if this was all deliberate?
Edited by mattikake on Monday 13th December 08:37
mattikake said:
(you just know I was going to indluge in this)
To remind yourselves of all the critical moments, here they are:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBEb8MuhSVQ
So was he a loose cannon? Wreckless? Measured? Deliberate? Skilled? Misunderstood? Bad-tempered? Incompetant? Inconsistent?
Is his reputation in tatters? Or is it good that he got to show a side of his talents that he hasn't had the opportunity to do so before, in F1 at least?
Don't you have anything more useful to do than post amateurish, biased sTo remind yourselves of all the critical moments, here they are:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBEb8MuhSVQ
So was he a loose cannon? Wreckless? Measured? Deliberate? Skilled? Misunderstood? Bad-tempered? Incompetant? Inconsistent?
Is his reputation in tatters? Or is it good that he got to show a side of his talents that he hasn't had the opportunity to do so before, in F1 at least?
te all over the internet.Seriously, you need to take some professional advice for your problem.
Interesting article in Autocar:-
http://www.autocar.co.uk/blogs/racinglines/archive...
P.S. He has been a complete let down in my opinion.
http://www.autocar.co.uk/blogs/racinglines/archive...
P.S. He has been a complete let down in my opinion.
Edited by Wanta996Gotta on Monday 13th December 10:31
Wanta996Gotta said:
whist I can understand the point about the car not being there (with the JB excuse), how come Rosberg managed to make him look 'ordinary' in the same car - 142 vs. 72 points?Scuffers said:
Wanta996Gotta said:
whist I can understand the point about the car not being there (with the JB excuse), how come Rosberg managed to make him look 'ordinary' in the same car - 142 vs. 72 points?I think I may give black and white fanboyism a try - it looks fun.
Decent enough at times but mostly he didn't look like he had the confidence in the car which he had previously. There were a couple of performances which pointed in the right direction though. We'll see. I think the number of laps he does this closed season will be a good barometer of the performance we can expect from him come March. Ideally we'll see the Schumacher of old in a puntable but ultimately slower Mercedes, it'd add something to an already great looking season.
One thing that has surprised me is some of the comments from pundits. Eddie Jordan and Alan Henry have both been quick to jump on anything negative from the MS camp this year. 2010 has not been a complete disaster IMO
Decent enough at times but mostly he didn't look like he had the confidence in the car which he had previously. There were a couple of performances which pointed in the right direction though. We'll see. I think the number of laps he does this closed season will be a good barometer of the performance we can expect from him come March. Ideally we'll see the Schumacher of old in a puntable but ultimately slower Mercedes, it'd add something to an already great looking season.
One thing that has surprised me is some of the comments from pundits. Eddie Jordan and Alan Henry have both been quick to jump on anything negative from the MS camp this year. 2010 has not been a complete disaster IMO
Forums | General Motorsport | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff