Curfew on team personel ?

[Arkle]

Oh Dear, after years of all nighters to get the car on the grid or get the ultimate set up, suddenly the pinacle of motorsport has to employ '9 to 5' staff even on race weekends! Oh well, more sleep for the same money, bet the team owners squeeze the wages.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula...

[Conian]

.. and in the evening we all pursue our hobby of 'building F1 cars'
Of course, Smithy didnt share this hobby, I wonder how he is doing...

[EDLT]

I don't see the point tbh, its not like the staff didn't know what they were getting in to.

[elster]

Do the FIA also come and tuck them in bed and read them a bedtime story before turning the lights off too?

[The Moose]

I would have thought if they want a curfew, they'll have to allow spare cars to be brought to the track as I really can't see any other way that the teams are going to be able to sort themselves out - I think it'll be a joke ending up with a selection of cars not making it to the grid.

That is of course if it definitely happens...

Cheers

The Moose

[Gwagon111]

I can see this working well

[IanUAE]

I thought I read that each team had 4 exceptions for the season.

[elster]

IanUAE said:

I thought I read that each team had 4 exceptions for the season.

YEah, I assume this will be for if lots of work needs doing after an incident.

[CampDavid]

The curfew should get round the age old problem of team personnel not being able to be specific about the time their prostitute arrives.

Handy

[Rude-boy]

elster said:

IanUAE said:

I thought I read that each team had 4 exceptions for the season.

YEah, I assume this will be for if lots of work needs doing after an incident.

And whilst I agree it is all a bit 'nanny' the curfews aren't exactly imposing a 9-5 regime on race weekends.

Looking at 'the bigger picture' i think that, on reflection, the FIA has to be seen to do something like this in this sad day and age. We have all seen many instances where team members have been sent bowling in the pit lane, just wait until one of them (or more likely the family in the worst case scenario) tries to sue the FIA for failure to prevent staff 'on the verge of total exhaustion from having to spend the last 2 nights rebuilding 2 cars due to 2 major incidents on a Friday and Saturday.'

[LY99]

how is this going to be enforced though?

"Oh look all Mclaren's personnel have gone home for the evening, but look here comes a load of contract agency engineers who just happen to have full Mclaren experience to finish the job"

I can see loads of rush jobs after big shunts next season so expect to see less reliability and more bits failing/falling off

[Chassis 33]

Works well over in NASCAR, coincidentally its mentioned in the interview with Steve Hallam in this months Motorsport - he reckons its one of the most effective rules NASCAR have.
Regards
Iain

[yellowtr]

Pah, not man enough until you have done a 19hr day in F1

I think its a good idea personally. The hours spent in a freezing cold garage in Valencia whilst waiting for the car to be built or started was very frustrating and obviously tiring.

[elster]

LY99 said:

how is this going to be enforced though?

"Oh look all Mclaren's personnel have gone home for the evening, but look here comes a load of contract agency engineers who just happen to have full Mclaren experience to finish the job"

I can see loads of rush jobs after big shunts next season so expect to see less reliability and more bits failing/falling off

They will probably deny access to garages between those times, or at the least block access to the car.

No reason to stop people working on the computer though.

[acf8181]

believe there are existing fia cameras in the garages to monitor park ferme between qual and race....thats how itll be enforced

[Rude-boy]

acf8181 said:

believe there are existing fia cameras in the garages to monitor park ferme between qual and race....thats how itll be enforced

Got it in one, together with security being asked to report to so and so if they see team members working on cars during cerfew hours. Don't forget the most amusing thing is that there will be a number of teams at the pointy end who will now be employing someone to make sure no-one else is breaching the rule

[Munter]

Rude-boy said:

elster said:

IanUAE said:

I thought I read that each team had 4 exceptions for the season.

YEah, I assume this will be for if lots of work needs doing after an incident.

And whilst I agree it is all a bit 'nanny' the curfews aren't exactly imposing a 9-5 regime on race weekends.

Looking at 'the bigger picture' i think that, on reflection, the FIA has to be seen to do something like this in this sad day and age. We have all seen many instances where team members have been sent bowling in the pit lane, just wait until one of them (or more likely the family in the worst case scenario) tries to sue the FIA for failure to prevent staff 'on the verge of total exhaustion from having to spend the last 2 nights rebuilding 2 cars due to 2 major incidents on a Friday and Saturday.'

I can see that as the reason as well. You wouldn't let someone who'd worked for 24 hours operate heavy machinery on a building site for fear of the HSE jumping all over you. I see it as a bit of CYA by the FIA to keep out of the mitts of the HSE.

[f1rob]

yellowtr said:

Pah, not man enough until you have done a 19hr day in F1

I think its a good idea personally. The hours spent in a freezing cold garage in Valencia whilst waiting for the car to be built or started was very frustrating and obviously tiring.

19 hr f1 day ? wait till you have done an all nighter an go into a "ghoster" through the next night,thats when it gets really interesting !

[pw75]

Why would they need others to police it outside of FOM.... the teams have for nearly the entire season ran parc ferme conditions with cctv in the garages and no-one has breached it as far as I know. This is a very easy to police extension of this. Think its a great idea to be honest.

Edited by pw75 on Wednesday 15th December 20:12

[pozi]

yellowtr said:

Pah, not man enough until you have done a 19hr day in F1

I think its a good idea personally. The hours spent in a freezing cold garage in Valencia whilst waiting for the car to be built or started was very frustrating and obviously tiring.

Says the test team lightweight, all the real work is done by the race team !!