Ferrari still want 3 car teams
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despite them originally wanting to have a 3rd car for Schumi to play with before he broke ranks. Am I the only one who can see that Ferrari are missing out on a much better opportunity? i.e. doing a RBR/STR, have another team which doesn't have the same car "honestly guv'nor it just looks the same" and branding it as Maserati or Alfa?
despite them originally wanting to have a 3rd car for Schumi to play with before he broke ranks. Am I the only one who can see that Ferrari are missing out on a much better opportunity? i.e. doing a RBR/STR, have another team which doesn't have the same car "honestly guv'nor it just looks the same" and branding it as Maserati or Alfa?
I actually think it's a good idea.
3rd car will cost bugger all more than they already spend, but gives them a third seat to sell/use to try out junior drivers, imagine what this would do for the likes of Williams/FI/Salbre/etc.
also, 24/26 cars is not enough, I want to see 36+ cars like the old days.
3rd car will cost bugger all more than they already spend, but gives them a third seat to sell/use to try out junior drivers, imagine what this would do for the likes of Williams/FI/Salbre/etc.
also, 24/26 cars is not enough, I want to see 36+ cars like the old days.
EDLT said:
Scuffers said:
also, 24/26 cars is not enough, I want to see 36+ cars like the old days.
The grid is limited by how many cars that can fit in Monaco's pits iirc. Unless you want the 107% rule back too?groomi said:
Scuffers said:
...imagine what this would do for the likes of Williams/FI/Salbre/etc.
Put them out of business I would imagine...Scuffers said:
EDLT said:
Scuffers said:
also, 24/26 cars is not enough, I want to see 36+ cars like the old days.
The grid is limited by how many cars that can fit in Monaco's pits iirc. Unless you want the 107% rule back too?groomi said:
Scuffers said:
...imagine what this would do for the likes of Williams/FI/Salbre/etc.
Put them out of business I would imagine...3 car teams seems very much like putting all you eggs into one basket to me. Ferrari's argument seems to be based on the premise that all new teams are going to start rubbish and remain rubbish and so shouldn't be allowed to try. The FIA does at least try to vet new teams to ensure they are suitable (with mixed results) and we'll see what happens with the re-introudction of the 107% rule next year.
llewop said:
Scuffers said:
EDLT said:
Scuffers said:
also, 24/26 cars is not enough, I want to see 36+ cars like the old days.
The grid is limited by how many cars that can fit in Monaco's pits iirc. Unless you want the 107% rule back too?groomi said:
Scuffers said:
...imagine what this would do for the likes of Williams/FI/Salbre/etc.
Put them out of business I would imagine...Assuming that F1 can cope with a 26 car grid (and HRT continue), I'd like to see the following.
There are 20 races in F1. We currently have 24 car grids. Extending the grid to 26, gives 40 'opportunities to race'
I'd like to see these 40 slots split over the top ten teams in the previous year's championship. Therefore they all have 4 opportunities to run a third car.
This car has to be driven by a driver who is either:
1) A top three driver in the GP2 or Indycar world series in the past three years.
2) A championship winner in FIA F3 or GP3 in the previous year.
3) A former F1 race winner who has been retired for over a year
Doing this would reward drivers who have succeeded in the conventional ladder to F1, rather than monied drivers. These drivers would have the opportunity to shine in GP, not a test session. Remember that drivers like Kubica and Vettel shone when they were given Sauber stand-in drives, and the likes of Glock, Kobayashi,Algueasari all launched F1 careers on the back of a one-off drive.
The option of running a veteran would be a great PR opportunity for F1, but would rarely be used. But it would give the opportunity to see a Coulthard in a third Red Bull at Silverstone (whilst commentating....), Jacques Villeneuve in a third Ferrari at Montreal.............. (or Nelson Piquet Senior in a Renault in Singapore...)
There are 20 races in F1. We currently have 24 car grids. Extending the grid to 26, gives 40 'opportunities to race'
I'd like to see these 40 slots split over the top ten teams in the previous year's championship. Therefore they all have 4 opportunities to run a third car.
This car has to be driven by a driver who is either:
1) A top three driver in the GP2 or Indycar world series in the past three years.
2) A championship winner in FIA F3 or GP3 in the previous year.
3) A former F1 race winner who has been retired for over a year
Doing this would reward drivers who have succeeded in the conventional ladder to F1, rather than monied drivers. These drivers would have the opportunity to shine in GP, not a test session. Remember that drivers like Kubica and Vettel shone when they were given Sauber stand-in drives, and the likes of Glock, Kobayashi,Algueasari all launched F1 careers on the back of a one-off drive.
The option of running a veteran would be a great PR opportunity for F1, but would rarely be used. But it would give the opportunity to see a Coulthard in a third Red Bull at Silverstone (whilst commentating....), Jacques Villeneuve in a third Ferrari at Montreal.............. (or Nelson Piquet Senior in a Renault in Singapore...)
I can't see the problem with this idea. As long as the opportunities are shared equally throughout the teams and the points system is seperate from the main championship (Jim Clark Trophy and Colin Chapman Trophy?) where could it go wrong.
A lottery system to choose who gets to run an extra car where, maybe slightly biased towards local teams to cut down on transport costs.
More drivers on the grid and another championship would be interesting.
A lottery system to choose who gets to run an extra car where, maybe slightly biased towards local teams to cut down on transport costs.
More drivers on the grid and another championship would be interesting.
Answer is simple, bring back the 3rd car for friday practices then use it as a spare car for rest of weekend, Only young drivers allowed to drive the 3rd on a Friday. Of course for the teams like Ferrari they can afford this, teams like Hispania wouldnt be able to afford to do this. Maybe they can have a young driver shootout in the 3rd cars for special trophys or points with cash rewards for the young drivers. For tracks with limited room like Monaco just dont allow teams to use 3rd cars.
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 17th December 11:26
thebigmacmoomin said:
If there were to be a few teams running 3 cars, rather than take points away from other teams only running 2 cars, jsut have a mini championship for the 3rd cars only. Also make it a rule that they must have no F1 experience but must have been a race winner in GP2 etc....
easy, driver point for all, but constructors points on only 2 nominated cars, job done.Forums | General Motorsport | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff