Hamilton: "Loyalty has its limits"
Hamilton: "Loyalty has its limits"
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ajprice

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33,273 posts

225 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/apr/14/lewis-...

"I have got only a short period in Formula One and I want to be competitive," he said. "I want to win championships. If you're in a good enough place and you're happy then there's no need to go anywhere. But loyalty has its limits."

More fuel on the fire for him walking out to somewhere else. This was in response to Whitmarsh saying he would like Hamilton and Button in the team for another 5 years. Red Bull is still the obvious team for him to move to in place of Webber, but they also mention Mercedes as a 'dark horse', maybe when Schumacher puts his feet up and goes home?

Wanta996Gotta

5,622 posts

236 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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Sounds exactly like what premiership footballers do when just about to sign a new contract. John Terry and Wayne Rooney spring to mind just before they signed multi-million pound deals. He will be at Mclaren for years to come in my opinion.

fitzy66

16 posts

187 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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I can't imagine Hamilton anywhere else, but his competitive nature might risk a move - I agree Red Bull would be the team he has his eyes on.

andygo

7,391 posts

284 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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He's clearly been wound up by his new management who wont care about loyalty, just about getting LH the most money and thereby maximising their income from him.

Typical football management attitude, and LH maybe not smart enough to see through it all.

Wanta996Gotta

5,622 posts

236 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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fitzy66 said:
I can't imagine Hamilton anywhere else, but his competitive nature might risk a move - I agree Red Bull would be the team he has his eyes on.
Why though? Do we all really think that Redbull are going to dominate for years to come?? Surely Newey going to Ferrari or Back to Mclaren is more likely??? If Lewis moves then only Ferrari would be the team to go to IMO.

donna180

627 posts

190 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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I thnik Newey will stay put - he want's to cement his reputation and there's no-where better than RB - he's already extended his contract. Why go to Ferrari which, given their spend, should win every race, and fail regularly than win with a less funded team?

Horner will play mind games on Lewis again, making Lewis think about all those RB championships rather than concentrating on the task at Mclaren but I doubt they'd want Lewis and Vettel.

Fire99

9,865 posts

258 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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It's a gamble whatever he does but I can see his frustration that last year it was clear that the Redbull was the car to be in and moving into 2011, nothing has changed.

Hamilton is hugely competitive and I can understand his angle. As much as I don't doubt he likes the money, personally I don't think this is about money. He's a winner and wants to win..

Get Karter

1,950 posts

230 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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This is probably the longest period in his whole career that he has gone without winning a championship.

So he's obviously not a happy bunny, and unlikely to sign up a long term contract with McLaren unless things change.

Charlie Foxtrot

3,275 posts

244 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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He doesn't have the slowest car on the grid, just not the fastest. Second fastest perhaps. He'd do well to outperfrom RB in a lesser car. Does he really think the rest of Mclaren are sitting around eating cake instead of trying to make the car the fastest on the grid.

I like him because he is british and at Mclaren, but he should lose the attitude and learn from Button. Sometimes you have lemons.

SRT77

710 posts

247 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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Oh dear he is getting a bit petulant. He is in the second best car - at the moment. Not everyone can be in a Red Bull. He wants to be in the best car in order to win more championships. Another driver gets a regular slating here for winning championships in the best car.

Stack

795 posts

216 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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What has he said exactly that is petulant ?

I would expect every driver on the grid to feel the same way, surely every driver wants the best car possible ..?

flemke

23,481 posts

266 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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Wanta996Gotta said:
fitzy66 said:
I can't imagine Hamilton anywhere else, but his competitive nature might risk a move - I agree Red Bull would be the team he has his eyes on.
Why though? Do we all really think that Redbull are going to dominate for years to come?? Surely Newey going to Ferrari or Back to Mclaren is more likely??? If Lewis moves then only Ferrari would be the team to go to IMO.
For years, Newey has said that he'd like to get out of F1 and instead design racing yachts. I don't know whether he'll go do that, but that's what he's been saying. Perhaps that's been delayed because RBR let him design the cars his way, and pay him a monster wage for doing so.

SRT77

710 posts

247 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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Stack said:
What has he said exactly that is petulant ?

I would expect every driver on the grid to feel the same way, surely every driver wants the best car possible ..?
As I said not everyone can be in a Red Bull. We've not yet had the 3rd race, and already Hamilton is peed off because he is not in the best car. That could change anyway.

Other quotes from him here-

When Hamilton, who has been with the Woking-based Mclaren team since signing as a child prodigy, was asked whether he envisaged staying with them for his entire career. "I don't really envisage anything, to be honest," he said.

The 26-year-old was then asked if he thought the idea of being a one-team man was intriguing. "Not really. I don't think there is any attraction to it whatsoever."

Only last year he said he would be happy to see out his career with Mclaren.

Get Karter

1,950 posts

230 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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flemke said:
RBR let him design the cars his way, and pay him a monster wage for doing so.
He needs the money to run and repair his superb E-Type Jag that Bobby Rahal managed to crash at Goodwood Revival.


Stack

795 posts

216 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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Newey to Ferrari would never happen ...

I remember reading he turned them down in the past becuase he only wants to live in the UK ..unless they set up another GTO outfit like when John Barnard was with them.


stephen300o

15,464 posts

257 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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Varuca Salt springs to mind.. "I want a Redbull Daddy!!"

wink

E30M3SE

8,493 posts

225 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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His new management co. have probably got quite a lot to do with what he is saying this year, last year he spoke his mind.

flemke

23,481 posts

266 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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andygo said:
He's clearly been wound up by his new management who wont care about loyalty, just about getting LH the most money and thereby maximising their income from him.

Typical football management attitude, and LH maybe not smart enough to see through it all.
Although obviously an immensely talented guy, he also is a very emotional guy. This can be good, but it seems sometimes to have a teenager-ish side to it, which isn't good. The worst thing about the Fuller announcement was when Lewis alluded to his going beyond racing - as if he were to become a "brand". One can readily imagine Fuller's giving Lewis the pitch that, under his management, Lewis would get recording contracts and parts in films.

ewenm

28,506 posts

274 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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He sounds like he's trying to avoid tabloid headlines of "Hamilton commits to McLaren for life" or "Hamilton wants to leave McLaren now", followed no doubt by media vilification when he does something different to whatever they've "decided" for him.

Treading the fine line that says "McLaren have been great so far, are competitive now, but that might change in the future so any sensible person keeps their options open" is non-newsworthy.

For the "Loyalty has it's limits" comment I would be surprised if the interviewer had been pushing him to commit the rest of his racing life to McLaren. Of course he's not going to do that, but it would make a great headline for someone that persuaded him to say it.

He could stay at McLaren for ever, he could move to another team - not quite so dramatic is it?

Streps

2,457 posts

195 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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Possibly a public response to martin whitmarsh saying he can imagine another 5 years
with the Jenson + Lewis line up.
But it will only happen if they can provide competitive cars.

Fair enough really.
It's extremely rare for any racing driver to spend a whole career with one team.