TVR S2
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toast boy

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254 months

Wednesday 10th November 2010
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Bought my S2 in 2005 and it was used as a daily driver until I moved to London and went to uni in 2006, I was supposed to sell it to pay for uni living costs but managed to keep hold of it but unfortunately it just stood on the drive slowly going mouldy for the best part of 4 years. Fast forward to 2009 and my dad and I got a workshop to restore classic cars so it got moved to the back of the workshop. Not much happened for a while but at least it was dry! Started the restoration in Jan 2010 doing bits and bobs, should have kept a more comprehensive photo diary but always forget to take pictures, get too involved! Here's the few photos I do have:

Body lifted off:


To reveal a pretty rotten chassis!






I didn't get photos but the front corners of the outriggers were almost totally gone, ended up cutting out the whole of each side and about half of the mid section bars.

New sections welded in and painted with POR15:





Body back on



First wash in 4 years!



I was a bit worried about the paintwork, it had been left under a car cover for years, most of the carpets had to be ripped out as they were mouldy but the cover had damaged the paintwork with a kind of dullness where it had somehow etched into the lacquer. Lots of polishing and compounding later and I'm pretty happy with the result. It's not perfect but it's about as good as it's going to get without a respray. If anyone asks it's just honest patina!







Looking moody!


Just need to check a few things tomorrow and hopefully it can go for it's MOT...

northandy

3,538 posts

249 months

Wednesday 10th November 2010
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That's lovely.

There's something great about seeing a proper rolling chassis, not like these modern cars with a bodyshell withe the bits all bolted to that.

ben10

2,216 posts

203 months

Wednesday 10th November 2010
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northandy said:
That's lovely.

There's something great about seeing a proper rolling chassis, not like these modern cars with a bodyshell withe the bits all bolted to that.
Agreed, it does look pretty cool with the body off smile

(Also looks good with the body on wink )

Altrezia

8,739 posts

239 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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These are really growing on me lately. How do they drive?

toast boy

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254 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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ben10 said:
northandy said:
That's lovely.

There's something great about seeing a proper rolling chassis, not like these modern cars with a bodyshell withe the bits all bolted to that.
Agreed, it does look pretty cool with the body off smile

(Also looks good with the body on wink )
Cheers guys, I did like the way it looked without the body, I was having daft ideas about fitting seats to it somehow and having a giant go kart!

Altrezia said:
These are really growing on me lately. How do they drive?
They are pretty good, the steering is brilliant and whilst it's not as powerful as the V8 TVRs there's a decent enough power to weight ratio to be fun, certainly enough to keep up with a modern hot hatch. It doesn't handle like a hot hatch, you can't throw it into a corner and hope the car will look after you but if you get entry speed and lines right you can chuck it about a fair bit. Overall I think they're great, for the price nothing comes close, for the money you could probably get something that covers ground faster (some kind of Type R, GTI or an Impreza) but this is so much more fun, every single drive is an event.

Podie

46,649 posts

303 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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Altrezia said:
These are really growing on me lately. How do they drive?
Great cars - still miss me S3c.

More chuckable than the Chimaera that I replaced it with, and rawer - although not as quick. V8S is a nice compromise!

toast boy

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254 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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Podie said:
Altrezia said:
These are really growing on me lately. How do they drive?
Great cars - still miss me S3c.

More chuckable than the Chimaera that I replaced it with, and rawer - although not as quick. V8S is a nice compromise!
I'd been thinking about this - I've been totally bitten by the TVR bug and can't see me wanting anything other than them for a while and was thinking a Chimaera/Griffith would be the logical progression but from what I've heard they are a bit more GT than the S. Really I'd just like something as raw (maybe even more so) as the S but with V8 power. I really like the looks of the later TVRs and am not sure how I'd feel about a V8S, the prices seem to be pretty strong now compared to a Chimaera. Could you 'toughen up' a Chim with different suspension?

snotrag

15,606 posts

239 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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Looks great that does. I'm a big fan of the 'S' too - a serial lurker on the S forum. I've thought for quite a while now that one of these is probably the logical next move on from my current car!

soad

34,549 posts

204 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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Cracking motor- loved those chassis pics too!

Podie

46,649 posts

303 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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toast boy said:
Podie said:
Altrezia said:
These are really growing on me lately. How do they drive?
Great cars - still miss me S3c.

More chuckable than the Chimaera that I replaced it with, and rawer - although not as quick. V8S is a nice compromise!
I'd been thinking about this - I've been totally bitten by the TVR bug and can't see me wanting anything other than them for a while and was thinking a Chimaera/Griffith would be the logical progression but from what I've heard they are a bit more GT than the S. Really I'd just like something as raw (maybe even more so) as the S but with V8 power. I really like the looks of the later TVRs and am not sure how I'd feel about a V8S, the prices seem to be pretty strong now compared to a Chimaera. Could you 'toughen up' a Chim with different suspension?
Yep, my Chimaera was modded - Protechs and a V8D cam with a few other induction mods, but it just didn't have the same raw (basic?) feeling as my S.

Our Griffith is a modded 500, with Protechs, rollbar, upgraded brakes etc etc, but again there is [i/something[/i] about the S.

V8S prices hold firm as they built a lot less than Griff and Chims. I'm not saying either is better - just that they are different.

toast boy

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Thursday 11th November 2010
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Thanks for the reply Podie, what do you think makes the S feel different then? Does it have a shorter wheelbase than the Griff/Chim? Barring that I can't think of much else that is too different in terms of things that would contribute to driving feel - the basic chassis architecture is similar and the weight is more or less the same I think?

_Batty_

12,268 posts

278 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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Must get on and do mine frown


was it hard to lift the body? the outriggers are totally shot frown

northandy

3,538 posts

249 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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When I was a kid I used to see an s2 regularly, I still remember the lovely burble from the exhaust.

joncon

1,515 posts

251 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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back in 1994, my first tvr was a S1 , got the bug for tvr after that, now on my 4th tvr.
si was a great introduction to sports cars, kept it for a year , made a small profit, and moved up to a 400 se wedge.
happy days

toast boy

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Thursday 11th November 2010
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_Batty_ said:
was it hard to lift the body? the outriggers are totally shot frown
Not difficult at all really, disconnect everything, undo the body bolts (12 if I remember correctly), and lift using something suitable or lots of manual labour. I've heard of people lifting it with manpower but it has to go quite high so not sure I'd be keen to try that. It goes up at quite an angle at the back to clear the transmission tunnel and we just lifted it partly by hand and then took up the slack with strong ratchet straps secured to beams in the ceiling. In the wise words of Haynes, refitting is the reversal of removal hehe The only slightly tricky bit is the angle to clear the tunnel, took a bit of jiggling about to get the chassis out but not massively difficult, probably only a few hours from start to finish.

lucebayjack

171 posts

195 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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when taking the body off did you tether your left wheel arch to a light fitting?

toast boy

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Thursday 11th November 2010
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Ha, it does look like that doesn't it? Strongest light fittings in the world! No it's just a bad camera angle, it's really supported on a hoop bolted to a chunk of angle iron bolted onto the beam.

WorGC

336 posts

257 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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I knew she was going to a good home! She looks fantastic mate.

She was my first Tiv, and we had some great times. You must bring her over to Alfa when she's ready. She'll look lovely next to my mates Griff.

toast boy

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Thursday 11th November 2010
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Cheers Gareth, I'll be popping round to see you soon smile

Podie

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303 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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toast boy said:
Thanks for the reply Podie, what do you think makes the S feel different then? Does it have a shorter wheelbase than the Griff/Chim? Barring that I can't think of much else that is too different in terms of things that would contribute to driving feel - the basic chassis architecture is similar and the weight is more or less the same I think?
In the early PH days lots of S owners moved to Griff's and Chims... most agreed it was a little more raw. May be first TVR rose tinted specs, maybe they are just a little less refined. Not sure on dimensions but the S feels smaller for some reason.