Cayenne calipers in terrible condition

[Snatch1]

I'm looking at a 2014 Cayenne deisel that is exactly the spec I'm after. I went to see it on Monday and it's great. Drives (and stops) perfectly, immaculate inside and out, but for the calipers. The brake caliper paint is awful. The calipers should be black but they're faded to grey. And the bolts look rusty, see below



The dealer has told me it's due to corrosive cleaning products having been used and they'll be brushed and cleaned up before delivery but clearly won't be back to brand new, and the logos will come of in the process (that in it's self isn't an issue as I know I can source new logos).

Is this usual? Should I be concerned? Should I expect him to get them properly painted? Why would the bolts be rusty? I'm wondering if it's been parked up and not used for a while

[red997]

if its been cleaned with acidic wheel cleaner, then yes, I'm afraid that is what happens.
I'd be a bit concerned about getting the bolts out
how many miles?

[cadmunkey]

Can't they replace them in order to secure the sale? Those alloys look etched too, maybe from the same acidic cleaners?

[steveo3002]

yep harsh wheel cleaner has been used

could you negotiate a refurb into the deal? somewhere like bigred would refurbish them then get the dealer to refit before collection?

[Snatch1]

Thanks for the replies. Mileage is 36K. The wheels are all in good order. The car had just been washed and the wheels not dried.

I might see if they can be refurbed into the deal. I'm guessing around £600 for a refurb and paint?

[stratfordshark]

Having just done this job myself, I think £600 would be just refurb cost. The dealer will incur significant labour charge in removing calipers and hydraulic lines, reinstalling post-refurb, and then a longer than usual brake bleeding process. Cost me nothing but my time, but dealer protecting margin may take less relaxed view!

[t400ble]

red997 said:

if its been cleaned with acidic wheel cleaner, then yes, I'm afraid that is what happens.
I'd be a bit concerned about getting the bolts out
how many miles?

Bolt will come out

[The Wookie]

Common on bare anodised calipers in salty environments, particularly if acidic cleaners are used. Not much you can do about it really other than rebuild them to get rid of the scabby fixings and paint them.

[majordad]

My Diesel Cayenne ( 2013 ) had 50k miles on it when I bought it and the calipers were same as yours, now I have 100k miles and they are no worse !

[Snatch1]

majordad said:

My Diesel Cayenne ( 2013 ) had 50k miles on it when I bought it and the calipers were same as yours, now I have 100k miles and they are no worse !

I guess that's reassuring. However I'm not sure I could live with them like they are. I'll see what the dealer is prepared to do to improve them

[majordad]

Had a closer look at mine today, and it seems to me that they were never Black, they were a silver/grey, but i might be wrong !

[nomank]

I used these folk: http://www.brakecaliperspecialists.uk/

They stripped everything down, smoothed the surface and then painted them and added the Porsche decals. I got mine done in yellow for the PCCB look

[Cheib]

majordad said:

Had a closer look at mine today, and it seems to me that they were never Black, they were a silver/grey, but i might be wrong !

Mine are Silver/Grey on an S Diesel

[thebraketester]

I would get those bleed nipples changed too before they totally corrode and jam up.

[pete]

Mine are the same, albeit the bolts aren’t so rusty, on a 2014 car with 25k miles. They started life from the factory as a rather dull mid grey, not black or silver, so the colour of yours look more or less like new. The v8 diesel has silver calipers, but the v6 got boring gunmetal as standard.

[Snatch1]

Thanks for the replies guys. Interesting that it seems they might not ever have been black. So a good clean up could have them looking a lot better. Still bit concerned out the rusted nuts and bleed nipple. Got to worth seeing if the dealer would sort them out

[Snatch1]

nomank said:

I used these folk: http://www.brakecaliperspecialists.uk/

They stripped everything down, smoothed the surface and then painted them and added the Porsche decals. I got mine done in yellow for the PCCB look

Thanks for this. Would be able to share how much this cost? And did the cost include them being removed and re-fitted?

[The Wookie]

Snatch1 said:

Thanks for the replies guys. Interesting that it seems they might not ever have been black. So a good clean up could have them looking a lot better. Still bit concerned out the rusted nuts and bleed nipple. Got to worth seeing if the dealer would sort them out

Like I said, it’s an anodised finish with a screen printed logo, the base colour would have started out like this:


(For those that know me, I know, shameless)

The rusty fittings are unsightly but unlikely to be an issue, the bleed nipples should have protective caps on to reduce the corrosion, but they do tend to look scabby on top but ok in the caliper, it’s electrolytic corrosion that sticks them in if they’re left for too long

It’s actually the fixings which are the poorest part of it, they should stand up to a lot more before corroding like that

Edited by The Wookie on Friday 29th September 09:53

[Daaaaan]

Snatch1 said:

I'm looking at a 2014 Cayenne deisel that is exactly the spec I'm after. I went to see it on Monday and it's great. Drives (and stops) perfectly, immaculate inside and out, but for the calipers. The brake caliper paint is awful. The calipers should be black but they're faded to grey. And the bolts look rusty, see below



The dealer has told me it's due to corrosive cleaning products having been used and they'll be brushed and cleaned up before delivery but clearly won't be back to brand new, and the logos will come of in the process (that in it's self isn't an issue as I know I can source new logos).

Is this usual? Should I be concerned? Should I expect him to get them properly painted? Why would the bolts be rusty? I'm wondering if it's been parked up and not used for a while

Can someone please point to the original colour of the calipers in the photo?

Mine look exacly the same (Cayenne 3.0D 2012, EU model), and I was trying to determine their colour. Was that originally black, or silver?

[Younez]

My 6 month Cayenne callipers were also like this.