Man maths advice for 997.2 service
Man maths advice for 997.2 service
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Hugo911

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220 posts

128 months

Thursday 28th June 2018
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Hi all, my 997.2 C2S is due a major service in a couple of months. It’s 8 years old and has almost 50k miles on the clock.

Wondering how much a service is likely to cost with OPC and a decent Porsche Indy. I imagine the cost of the service can quickly add up over and above the headline cost, it will definitely need new spark plugs for sure.

Any advice appreciated, trying to work out the trade off between OPC and indy both in terms of cost now and impact on resale value into the future.

mr pg

2,039 posts

228 months

Thursday 28th June 2018
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To give you an idea check out an OPC website where they normally quotes service costs for non-current models, and for comparison then look at RPMtechnic who also quotes service costs.

athomp04

177 posts

191 months

Thursday 28th June 2018
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I had mine done recently at the same point and I had similar reservations about dropping out of the main dealer history. In the end there was very little difference in cost.
However, a good Indy will be far more pro active in terms of maintenance, and more importantly will concentrate on what your car needs as opposed to a menu on database. Most buyers are aware of this too so should not detract from the value. I will always take this route from now on.

Rich_AR

1,984 posts

227 months

Thursday 28th June 2018
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I was also in the same position last month. My 997.2 C4S was due its annual service, contacted my local OPC to book it in, they had no interest at all, which just summed up how well they'd treat the car. So decided to use my nearest indy, cheaper, better customer service and actually gave the car a better inspection than previous experience.

v8ksn

4,713 posts

207 months

Thursday 28th June 2018
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athomp04 said:
I had mine done recently at the same point and I had similar reservations about dropping out of the main dealer history. In the end there was very little difference in cost.
However, a good Indy will be far more pro active in terms of maintenance, and more importantly will concentrate on what your car needs as opposed to a menu on database. Most buyers are aware of this too so should not detract from the value. I will always take this route from now on.
THIS!

Independent garages have a reputation to uphold as a few bad experiences magnify and spread through word of mouth.

A few bad experiences at an OPC mean nothing.

If you need to maintain a warranty then go to an OPC, if you want to maintain a good car to enjoy and drive and own, go to a good quality, recommended independent.

Adam B

29,462 posts

277 months

Thursday 28th June 2018
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http://www.nineexcellence.com/service/service.html...

its 8 years old, I would only maintain OPC record during the 3 or 4 year warranty period, much prefer the two Porsche indys I use - RGA and 9E

Edited by Adam B on Thursday 28th June 17:04

arcamalpha

1,113 posts

187 months

Thursday 28th June 2018
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
at Eight years old I would suggest the 'headline' cost of the Service as per the price list is only the beginning.
You'll be reaching the point where wear and tear items will start to show themselves too - thats when the fun bills really start to come in I found (I had an 8yr old 997.1 for four years)
I found it became a yearly £1k number on 'something'....

Brake pipes all round ?
Rads all round ?
A clutch / DMF


I would imagine the advise and practical efficiencies of an Indy pay dividends at this stage....
Could be right. Equally, if it’s well cared for it shouldnt need anything beyond the fluids and filters.

v8ksn

4,713 posts

207 months

Thursday 28th June 2018
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anonymous said:
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I personally feel that an independent would look after my car better than an OPC, that's why I employ their services.

If there comes a time when I have to sell the car, I know i will get a lower trade-in value from an OPC than an independent but I am sure a private buyer will know about the car they are buying and will value the service history over the silly stamps.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

127 months

Thursday 28th June 2018
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v8ksn said:
If there comes a time when I have to sell the car, I know i will get a lower trade-in value from an OPC than an independent but I am sure a private buyer will know about the car they are buying and will value the service history over the silly stamps.
I would say that depends who your buyer is. I think you may reduce your possible buyer pool if it doesn't have full Porsche history. Depends on the car too - older and more specialist metal, people may value a specialist indy over an OPC. A regular Boxster, not so much. Your average Joe, looking for a mainstream car, would prefer OPC stamps I'm sure.

v8ksn

4,713 posts

207 months

Thursday 28th June 2018
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Twinfan said:
v8ksn said:
If there comes a time when I have to sell the car, I know i will get a lower trade-in value from an OPC than an independent but I am sure a private buyer will know about the car they are buying and will value the service history over the silly stamps.
I would say that depends who your buyer is. I think you may reduce your possible buyer pool if it doesn't have full Porsche history. Depends on the car too - older and more specialist metal, people may value a specialist indy over an OPC. A regular Boxster, not so much. Your average Joe, looking for a mainstream car, would prefer OPC stamps I'm sure.
The potential buyer pool may be reduced but in my ownership of the car, which is a 997.1 GT3, I prefer and trust the advice of JZM over an OPC.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

127 months

Thursday 28th June 2018
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Like I said - it depends on the car smile An older GT3 I would also take to a specialist.

For the OP's 997.2 C2S, I think I'd go OPC if it wasn't a lifetime keeper.

anonymous-user

77 months

Thursday 28th June 2018
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My 2010 997.2 C4S is being serviced at the moment.

The bill is as follows.

Major service £505.
New plugs £381.
Brake fluid £95
Air con clean £50.

Extras suggested.

One front tyre worn <3mm for £180, also need to replace other as it is over 30% worn so another £180.
Top Mounts £441 per side, both needed as rubber had separated.
Some rust on inside of rear discs but only an observation.

In truth this major service has been over £250 cheaper than the previous minor service at Reading so choose your OPC carefully.

v8ksn

4,713 posts

207 months

Thursday 28th June 2018
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gottans said:
My 2010 997.2 C4S is being serviced at the moment.

The bill is as follows.

Major service £505.
New plugs £381.
Brake fluid £95
Air con clean £50.

Extras suggested.

One front tyre worn <3mm for £180, also need to replace other as it is over 30% worn so another £180.
Top Mounts £441 per side, both needed as rubber had separated.
Some rust on inside of rear discs but only an observation.

In truth this major service has been over £250 cheaper than the previous minor service at Reading so choose your OPC carefully.
Are those prices independent or OPC?

Rich_AR

1,984 posts

227 months

Friday 29th June 2018
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v8ksn said:
Are those prices independent or OPC?
That's OPC prices.

See here: https://www.porsche.com/uk/accessoriesandservice/p...



anonymous-user

77 months

Friday 29th June 2018
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Yes it is OPC pricing under the fixed price scheme, not all OPC's are signed up to the scheme and there is no list of participating dealers. If you want to know you need to phone each dealer and ask.

Hugo911

Original Poster:

220 posts

128 months

Sunday 1st July 2018
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Some great advice guys. One question it throws up: how can one get the bare minimum service done at OPC (to get the stamps and maintain Porsche warranty) and then get any additional items done at an indy? Is that possible?

anonymous-user

77 months

Sunday 1st July 2018
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Hugo911 said:
Some great advice guys. One question it throws up: how can one get the bare minimum service done at OPC (to get the stamps and maintain Porsche warranty) and then get any additional items done at an indy? Is that possible?
I think you will find that Porsche will expect the servicing carried out to conform to the schedule in the book, of my list above only the AC clean would not be part of the service schedule. I would take the view the extra bits and/or repairs can be completed at an indy using genuine parts, still there is no guarantee that an indy is cheaper than an OPC.


Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 1st July 07:57

rabbitstew

142 posts

181 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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My local highly respected indi charges £282 for a minor service & £402 for a major on a C2S. That`s including VAT. Obviously there may be other items outside of a service which need to also be included such as brake fluid change (£82) and plugs etc..

Hugo911

Original Poster:

220 posts

128 months

Thursday 5th July 2018
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Some great advice guys. One question it throws up: how can one get the bare minimum service done at OPC (to get the stamps and maintain Porsche warranty) and then get any additional items done at an indy? Is that possible?

Twinfan

10,125 posts

127 months

Thursday 5th July 2018
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Completely possible, no reason why you can't. If you're running a warranty, ensure the Indy uses genuine Porsche parts.