Stopping windows closing
Stopping windows closing
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mainlysideways

Original Poster:

72 posts

241 months

Tuesday 4th April 2006
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Just wondering, is there anyway to stop the windows automatically closing when locking/alarming my 2001 Tuscan?, or put another way, how do I leave a window down a bit when the car is locked?

Any help would be gratefully received.

RedTuscan

230 posts

270 months

Tuesday 4th April 2006
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Move the window with the window button when the door is open. Then they do not automatically close.

mainlysideways

Original Poster:

72 posts

241 months

Tuesday 4th April 2006
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Thanks RedTuscan, but I've tried that... open door, power window down using window button, close door, blip the remote, window self powers all the way up to fully closed.

But I am I missing something?

itsadeal

707 posts

242 months

Tuesday 4th April 2006
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Mainlysideways

Original Poster:

72 posts

241 months

Tuesday 4th April 2006
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I’ve just been out to the garage to retry Itsadeal, I tried half a dozen times, each with the same results.

This is what I was doing, open door, window drops automatically to about halfway, with the door open turn window knob so the window drops a bit (tried various heights), close the door (the window stays where it is), press the button on my remote/key and window automatically closes fully.

What am I doing wrong?

itsadeal

707 posts

242 months

Tuesday 4th April 2006
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Hmmm. Dont know, cant understand it.

Both of ours does it, I wonder if you have an uprated alarm or something.

What your saying is it stays down fine without going back up, until you lock it!

How often are you going to lock it with them down out of interest, as I can look through the wiring diagrams to fit a manual switch or something for you to remove the power source from them if you like?


let me know

Mainlysideways

Original Poster:

72 posts

241 months

Tuesday 4th April 2006
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Yep, that’s it, the window stays down until I lock it, I don’t think alarm has been upgraded, although the previous owner ticked just about every box on the options list, I think the alarm is a standard Meta 99/T2.

I plan to leave the windows open slightly quite a lot this summer, it’s not for me, but my Jack Russell, he comes with me everywhere, so if I was to stop outside a shop for a few minutes when it’s hot I was going to leave the windows slightly down but the car locked, just the same as I have been able to do in the literally dozens of cars I have owned in the past.

I’ve spoken to Meta, they say if the window controller had been there own M8 unit, then not a problem as the unit has a button to set the height at which the windows roll up to. But the factory said they use their own unit and suggested that I get an estate car, for the dog…

Apparently this factory unit controls the door locking as well, apart from drilling ventilation holes in the rear screen, I out of ideas…

If helps both of the window encoders have recently been replace, they both went with in a week of each other.

If you have any ideas Itsadeal, thanks in advance.

nelly1

5,662 posts

255 months

Wednesday 5th April 2006
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Why don't you just not lock the car?

If it's only for a bit - and the immobiliser kicks in anyway.....
I'm sure your dog will take care of any valuables you might leave on show

Failing that - take the dog with you......

Mainlysideways

Original Poster:

72 posts

241 months

Wednesday 5th April 2006
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That's what I doing now, but I'm not keen on leaving a £54k car (that’s what it cost new with all the options...) open, also if anything is nicked, including the dog! I’m sure the first question the insurance company would ask is was it locked... er, no...

I wish I could take the dog with me, unfortunately when you get into it, there are very few public places that you can take a dog.

Anyway, I find it hard to believe that a car with a high end multi function alarm like this can’t be easily locked with a window cracked open. I’ve had Cliffords and Toads etc before, all locked with a window ajar.

itsadeal

707 posts

242 months

Wednesday 5th April 2006
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Let me have a play! It should be easy to over ride it via a switch!

Or plan "B" for insurance purposes, take the back screen out. Its locked?

OK? I will look at the simplest way to occasionally be able to set window desired level then switch off power supply to windows, but alarm & immoblizer kicks in as normal.



Just give me a couple of days as I am working away, but then I will find the solution and let you know.

Will you be ok to fit a switch if I tell you the wires to chop? and provide a pic?

Mainlysideways

Original Poster:

72 posts

241 months

Wednesday 5th April 2006
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Thanks Itsadeal, that will be great! , I considered take the rear screen out, but it just seems so much easier to use the windows and the second time I’ve dared to take the roof off this year (last Friday) I got stuck is a heavy shower on the motorway, I just had to sit there and take it, my dog was not happy as well...!!

No problem with wire chopping, I done quite a few ICE upgrades in the past and have designed/worked on PCBs and electronics as well (like everyone else with a TVR I’ve worked in IT, or so it seems ). No rush, it not hot yet...

milu

2,492 posts

290 months

Wednesday 5th April 2006
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even if you manage to leave the windows open,wont the dog set the alarm off anyway??
mike.

S3 CGJ

110 posts

241 months

Wednesday 5th April 2006
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My alarm does exactly the same. No matter what, switch the alarm on, the windows go up.

My Tuscan is one of the very first produced, maybe yours is too.

nelly1

5,662 posts

255 months

Wednesday 5th April 2006
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What do you think the insurance company would say if something happened and they found you had chopped into the alarm system?

I don't think humane treatment of a Jack Russell would cut it with an assessor!

Definitely a tricky one - how about a plug-in 12v fan and a couple of ice packs?
Or a dog sized cool box......

mainlysideways

Original Poster:

72 posts

241 months

Wednesday 5th April 2006
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Mike - No he has never set the alarm off (with the windows closed), apparently you can turn the sensitivity of the microwave sensor down, but I haven’t had to.

S3 CGJ - My Tuscan is a 2001, I’m not sure when full production commenced in 1999, but I am guessing my car was 12-18 months into the production run. But glad to hear it’s not just me!! and other peeps have got the same thing happening.

Nelly1 - I don’t think Itsadeal is talking about the alarm loom, just the window control loom, nice idea about the fan but does the cigarette lighter work with the ignition off? and it could drain the battery, plus I’d be just blowing hot air over the dog. But you can get fans that are designed to clip on to dog carriers, unfortunately you are meant to use them with the windows slightly open...

NCE 61

2,444 posts

305 months

Wednesday 5th April 2006
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My September 2000 Tuscan was the same. You press the key fob & the windows would close ie full closure alarm. Having an override switch in series with the door closed switch would prevent the window from closing when the alarm was enabled, although this would not disable the microwave alarm.

mainlysideways

Original Poster:

72 posts

241 months

Wednesday 5th April 2006
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Having an override switch in series would be perfect, as Spike (my dog) never sets the alarm off, or perhaps thinking about it, knowing tiver electrics, perhaps the microwave sensor has packed up

whitey

2,508 posts

308 months

Wednesday 5th April 2006
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er....take the roof off instead and tie the dogs lead to the steering wheel or something?

I think you can disable the internal microwave alarm by holding down the keyfob for a second longer when alarming the car, instructions in the manual.

cheers
Whitey

mainlysideways

Original Poster:

72 posts

241 months

Wednesday 5th April 2006
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Thanks whitey, but as I keep saying the microwave sensor is not a problem, the dog has never set the alarm off.

I have consider taking the roof off, but dogs need shade, having the window/windows down a bit would just work a treat!


>> Edited by mainlysideways on Wednesday 5th April 13:13

kipper_

103 posts

252 months