Becoming a family man - the Tuscan will have to go
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Hi TUS373
Congratulations on the good news regarding the forthcoming little Tusser! Prepare for some changes to your life and priorities.
Best advice on selling your lovely Tuscan is to be realistic from the outset. Don't think just because it's your car and Tiffany Dell has sat in it that normal market forces don't apply - if you put it on at a silly price to start with and then have to reduce it several times no-one will take you seriously.
Look at sales prices (not advert prices) over the past six months - from my observations a 2000 Tuscan without a recent factory engine rebuild may be worth between £15K and £17K at present. If not sold by the end of July the price will drop by at least another grand or two.
You can increase your chances of a sale by providing a TVR warranty. If I was you I would shell out for a warranty, get it serviced, MOTed, include the TUS registration, etc. and put it up on PH Classifieds for £17.5K. That way you will probably get a quick and painless sale for around £17K.
Good luck.
Jigs
Congratulations on the good news regarding the forthcoming little Tusser! Prepare for some changes to your life and priorities.
Best advice on selling your lovely Tuscan is to be realistic from the outset. Don't think just because it's your car and Tiffany Dell has sat in it that normal market forces don't apply - if you put it on at a silly price to start with and then have to reduce it several times no-one will take you seriously.
Look at sales prices (not advert prices) over the past six months - from my observations a 2000 Tuscan without a recent factory engine rebuild may be worth between £15K and £17K at present. If not sold by the end of July the price will drop by at least another grand or two.
You can increase your chances of a sale by providing a TVR warranty. If I was you I would shell out for a warranty, get it serviced, MOTed, include the TUS registration, etc. and put it up on PH Classifieds for £17.5K. That way you will probably get a quick and painless sale for around £17K.
Good luck.
Jigs
Edited by jigsty on Friday 23 June 12:08
jigs
Just how do you have 'in-depth observations' of the actual prices achieved by cars that have been sold. Sold and bought any Tuscans have we? Given your past postings I'd say not likely.
TUS373
Firstly congratulations
I would suggest that you wait for someone who has real experience in this area before setting your price.
Oh and as a family car I would suggest the Saab 9-5 Aero Estate, should meet all your requirements
davidy
Just how do you have 'in-depth observations' of the actual prices achieved by cars that have been sold. Sold and bought any Tuscans have we? Given your past postings I'd say not likely.
TUS373
Firstly congratulations
I would suggest that you wait for someone who has real experience in this area before setting your price.
Oh and as a family car I would suggest the Saab 9-5 Aero Estate, should meet all your requirements
davidy
Davidy
Let's cut out the hissy fits and uncalled for abuse - I'm giving TUS373 some good sound advice based on my unbiased experience. He doesn't have to take my advice but IMO listening to a load of piffle from fellow Tuscan owners with unrealistic expectations ain't going to achieve a sale as he found out the last time he tried. Baby TUS deserves better this time - don't you agree?
Jigs
PS Recent PH Classifieds 2000 Tuscan entries suggest I might actually be too optimistic in my advice.
Let's cut out the hissy fits and uncalled for abuse - I'm giving TUS373 some good sound advice based on my unbiased experience. He doesn't have to take my advice but IMO listening to a load of piffle from fellow Tuscan owners with unrealistic expectations ain't going to achieve a sale as he found out the last time he tried. Baby TUS deserves better this time - don't you agree?
Jigs
PS Recent PH Classifieds 2000 Tuscan entries suggest I might actually be too optimistic in my advice.
Bryan - congrats and commiserations at the same time.
You are selling the bestest bestest ever colour Tuscan so should go quickly!!
Re the Saab 9.5 Aero, if you think TVRs depreciate heavily, wait until you have a 9.5.
My last one cost me a fortune, particularly if you do highish mileages. Servicing is very expensive too.
Had Saabs for years as my daily sensible car but as the servicing costs kept increasing, I switched over to Audi. Servicing on my A4 Avant is around every 20K (predictive servicing) and the costs are quite a bit cheaper than my 9.5 was.
Having said that, if the running costs of the Saab were the same as Audi, I would plump for the 9.5 Aero Estate. A superb and distictive looking motor.
You are selling the bestest bestest ever colour Tuscan so should go quickly!!
Re the Saab 9.5 Aero, if you think TVRs depreciate heavily, wait until you have a 9.5.
My last one cost me a fortune, particularly if you do highish mileages. Servicing is very expensive too.
Had Saabs for years as my daily sensible car but as the servicing costs kept increasing, I switched over to Audi. Servicing on my A4 Avant is around every 20K (predictive servicing) and the costs are quite a bit cheaper than my 9.5 was.
Having said that, if the running costs of the Saab were the same as Audi, I would plump for the 9.5 Aero Estate. A superb and distictive looking motor.
Hi, nice car, admired it loads of times at NW meets, last time at Tatton Park a couple of weeks ago....
Good advice regarding price though, be realistic, I had my Tiger Supersix on here a couple of months for £7500, not a lot of interest, reduced the price to £6995 and sold it first day, thereafter the phone never stopped ringing.....
Good luck with the little 'un by the way...
Good advice regarding price though, be realistic, I had my Tiger Supersix on here a couple of months for £7500, not a lot of interest, reduced the price to £6995 and sold it first day, thereafter the phone never stopped ringing.....
Good luck with the little 'un by the way...
jigs
There was no abuse in my posting, don't take things personally
I didn't query your pricing information but merely where your 'observations' came from. I don't believe after your last PH exeprience that you've ever owned a Tuscan (or intend to) so just where does this 'unbiased experience' come from.
I totally agree that 'most' owners overvalue their cars, but I'm sure some on PH have recently sold yr2000 Tuscans and can provide 'real experience'
b2tus
My experience of running a Saab 9-5 is that in terms or running costs its been far less thatn my previous car (Audi A8 - which cost me £2500 in servicing + tyres in 20 months! and 21k miles and had an intermmittent ECU when I sold it!) and so far I've done over 120K miles. But as you point out depreciation is a real killer, and I would suggest that TUS373 looks at cars that have taken their initial hit of depreiciation. You can now get good third party warranties for Saabs, I bought one at 105K miles 3 year policy unlimited mileage, £1000 per claim, max no of claims up to value of the vehicle (£6500) for £600 (thats only £200 per year and includes turbo cover)
The 9-5 is an NCAP 5* so has serious wife/baby credibility
davidy
There was no abuse in my posting, don't take things personally
I didn't query your pricing information but merely where your 'observations' came from. I don't believe after your last PH exeprience that you've ever owned a Tuscan (or intend to) so just where does this 'unbiased experience' come from.
I totally agree that 'most' owners overvalue their cars, but I'm sure some on PH have recently sold yr2000 Tuscans and can provide 'real experience'
b2tus
My experience of running a Saab 9-5 is that in terms or running costs its been far less thatn my previous car (Audi A8 - which cost me £2500 in servicing + tyres in 20 months! and 21k miles and had an intermmittent ECU when I sold it!) and so far I've done over 120K miles. But as you point out depreciation is a real killer, and I would suggest that TUS373 looks at cars that have taken their initial hit of depreiciation. You can now get good third party warranties for Saabs, I bought one at 105K miles 3 year policy unlimited mileage, £1000 per claim, max no of claims up to value of the vehicle (£6500) for £600 (thats only £200 per year and includes turbo cover)
The 9-5 is an NCAP 5* so has serious wife/baby credibility
davidy
Edited by davidy on Friday 23 June 13:01
b2tus said:
Re the Saab 9.5 Aero, if you think TVRs depreciate heavily, wait until you have a 9.5.
My last one cost me a fortune, particularly if you do highish mileages. Servicing is very expensive too.
You can reverse the argument by looking at the number of ca. 5 year old examples that can be picked up for absolutely peanuts, giving a lot of performance, practicality and safety plus just as repectable an image for a fraction of what you pay for the German default choice stuff - I mean, I can't for the life of me understand why someone would pay £9K for a four year old A3 (basically a Golf IV in a slightly different body, so nowt special in any department) when a 9-3 of similar age is half that at best. Re: servicing - seek a good independant specialist and you'll be laughing.
davidy said:
jigs
There was no abuse in my posting, don't take things personally
I didn't query your pricing information but merely where your 'observations' came from. I don't believe after your last PH exeprience that you've ever owned a Tuscan (or intend to) so just where does this 'unbiased experience' come from.
I totally agree that 'most' owners overvalue their cars, but I'm sure some on PH have recently sold yr2000 Tuscans and can provide 'real experience'
b2tus
My experience of running a Saab 9-5 is that in terms or running costs its been far less thatn my previous car (Audi A8 - which cost me £2500 in servicing + tyres in 20 months! and 21k miles and had an intermmittent ECU when I sold it!) and so far I've done over 120K miles. But as you point out depreciation is a real killer, and I would suggest that TUS373 looks at cars that have taken their initial hit of depreiciation. You can now get good third party warranties for Saabs, I bought one at 105K miles 3 year policy unlimited mileage, £1000 per claim, max no of claims up to value of the vehicle (£6500) for £600 (thats only £200 per year and includes turbo cover)
The 9-5 is an NCAP 5* so has serious wife/baby credibility
davidy
There was no abuse in my posting, don't take things personally
I didn't query your pricing information but merely where your 'observations' came from. I don't believe after your last PH exeprience that you've ever owned a Tuscan (or intend to) so just where does this 'unbiased experience' come from.
I totally agree that 'most' owners overvalue their cars, but I'm sure some on PH have recently sold yr2000 Tuscans and can provide 'real experience'
b2tus
My experience of running a Saab 9-5 is that in terms or running costs its been far less thatn my previous car (Audi A8 - which cost me £2500 in servicing + tyres in 20 months! and 21k miles and had an intermmittent ECU when I sold it!) and so far I've done over 120K miles. But as you point out depreciation is a real killer, and I would suggest that TUS373 looks at cars that have taken their initial hit of depreiciation. You can now get good third party warranties for Saabs, I bought one at 105K miles 3 year policy unlimited mileage, £1000 per claim, max no of claims up to value of the vehicle (£6500) for £600 (thats only £200 per year and includes turbo cover)
The 9-5 is an NCAP 5* so has serious wife/baby credibility
davidy
Edited by davidy on Friday 23 June 13:01
davidy,
I know Jigsy does come out with some crap regarding TVR's and I do think he also really dislikes them, so we really cant take him too serious however, 17k for a 2000 Tuscan seems reasonable. Personally, when I was looking to purchase a second hand Tamora I looked in 'Top Marques' magazine - 30 quid a throw tho.
With the extended SAAB warranty, can you claim for the hand yearly yellow paint and new all round reflectors?
jigsty said:
Shapeshifter
Some corrections to your post are necessary -
jigs does not come out with crap,
Jigs loves all TVRs,
TVRs not TVR's,
Last sentence should be rewritten in English.
2/10 could do better!
Jigs
Some corrections to your post are necessary -
jigs does not come out with crap,
Jigs loves all TVRs,
TVRs not TVR's,
Last sentence should be rewritten in English.
2/10 could do better!
Jigs
Jigs,
You spit out more crap than a muck spreader - are you in the farming industry? By the way, I was supporting you with your 17k valuation, give me a break son.
Right - I am going to ask for this thread to be closed. I can't be doing with the way things degenerate around here and its gone right off topic. My original question was directed towards asking the experience of those who have sold their Tuscans as to the medium they found most effective - that was it.
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