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mikereynolds

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245 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2006
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Am off to view a Tuscan on saturday, it a 2001 4 litre with 19k miles, has a FSH and just had a new clutch and tires, also just had the dash pod done. It hasnt has any upgrade work done on the engine however it does have a 20 month Autoprotect wear and tear warranty. I know that buying a car with engine upgrades is advisable however with the comprehensvie warranty I am considering it and just wondered peoples views.

Cheers
Mike

Ricardo Bertone

562 posts

234 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2006
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You'd need to check just how comprehensive that warranty is before jumping in. What's the price, etc?

Ricardo

mikereynolds

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Wednesday 22nd November 2006
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20k, the warranty covers repairs up to 25k including engine, gearbox, diff and all electrics, and wear and tear.

markdav744

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251 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2006
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you may want to ask or read about the smallprint. i know tvrs own warranty doesnt cover wear and tear on cars over five years old. wear and tear counts as all the common engine problems and clutch. but id say just buy 1 you will never look back, had mine nearly 2 years, and love it more than ever. good luck

Tuska

961 posts

254 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2006
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Many people here have had wear and tear cam follower problems with their S6 engine that have been denied by their warranties even with low mileage. I am distrustfull of them. It seems that the knowledege that it is a well known fault allows the insurance company to reject liability.

I would urge you to source a car that has had a relatively recent rebuild either by TVR Power, TVR Craft or Austec. I never bothered with a warranty but have a 4.5k fighting fund for when it breaks again. (my rebuild was done Jan 2003 and i bought her in 2004).

tcant

308 posts

235 months

Thursday 23rd November 2006
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I have to agree with Tuska.

In my opinion, if you are looking for around a 2001 model, with c 20,000 miles you should really go for one with a recent rebuild. There are so many posts on PH about warranty nightmares when it comes to engine rebuilds.

I bought a 2000 Tuscan with 20,000 miles and had to have a rebuild soon after (even though there was a full service history).

Mine was rebuilt by TVRCraft and I'm still running it in at the moment but the engine feels and sounds great !!!





Edited by tcant on Thursday 23 November 09:32

basil brush

5,528 posts

287 months

Thursday 23rd November 2006
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20k miles does seem to be the ballpark where valve guide wear can start to show on the earlier engines. Is the spec on the car good?

mikereynolds

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Thursday 23rd November 2006
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18 inch Spyder Alloy wheels with new tires, Magnolia full Leather interior, air-con, Central locking, Thatcham approved alarm, Electric door mirrors, TAX & MOT until July 2007, Heated door mirrors, FSH, New clutch, Full TVR Service 6 mths ago (Total of 5 TVR Services), 21 months left on warranty which can be transferred to new owner. Car in A1 condition,

can be found here [url]www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/105652.htm[/url]

also interested in this one www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/89913.htm

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oggs

8,815 posts

278 months

Thursday 23rd November 2006
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Imho the 2nd looks better and has had a rebuild

tcant

308 posts

235 months

Thursday 23rd November 2006
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It would have to be the second one for me as well.

No mention of a new clutch though after 28,000 miles ???? ......scratchchin

I assume it was checked when the rebuild was done earlier this year, but that is a lot of miles if it hasn't had one!!

mikereynolds

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Thursday 23rd November 2006
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Think there will be some definate price bargaining as its been on there 52 days, what do you reckon I should offer if all seems in order? Be cheeky and offer 15k???

mikereynolds

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Thursday 23rd November 2006
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Also found this one www.pistonheads.com/sales/107579.htm just spoken to the guy and he seems very knowledgeable about the car, like the colour too!!

tcant

308 posts

235 months

Thursday 23rd November 2006
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Mike

My only comment would be that the red coloured one had a rebuild in 2003 and the other one you are looking at was rebuilt in 2006.

From the research I did when I was looking at buying my car, it appears the likes of TVR Power, Austec and TVRCraft have made huge improvements in the engine design and engine parts to make the speed 6 far more reliable. I would therefore prefer to go for a car with a 2006 spec rebuilt engine rather than a 2003 rebuild.

Thats my opinion for what its worth.....

Its definately worth making an offer on, it really is a buyers market at this time of year.

Roll on the dry weather! driving

Good Luck !

Tuska

961 posts

254 months

Thursday 23rd November 2006
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tcant said:
Mike

My only comment would be that the red coloured one had a rebuild in 2003 and the other one you are looking at was rebuilt in 2006.

From the research I did when I was looking at buying my car, it appears the likes of TVR Power, Austec and TVRCraft have made huge improvements in the engine design and engine parts to make the speed 6 far more reliable. I would therefore prefer to go for a car with a 2006 spec rebuilt engine rather than a 2003 rebuild.



Completley agree. My 2003 rebuild is still going strong, but its now done 16000 miles since the rebuild and i KNOW its going to go again. 2006 rebuild every time........

pete

1,628 posts

308 months

Thursday 23rd November 2006
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tcant said:
No mention of a new clutch though after 28,000 miles ???? ......scratchchin

My late-2003 3.6 has done 28k on its original clutch, as far as I'm aware, and the clutch still feels very healthy.

It also hasn't had a rebuild, and the top end looked fine at the last service, so these "oddities" are out there!

Pete

mikereynolds

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Thursday 23rd November 2006
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www.pistonheads.com/sales/81975.htm found this one too, only thing I would be worried about this mileage is gearbox probs and the bushes needing replacing etc. On the plus side its just had an engine rebuild and has 12 months warranty.

mikereynolds

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Thursday 23rd November 2006
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www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/86479.htm found this one too, just spoke with the guy and its having the engine rebuilt at TVR Power as we speak, he said that there was no sign that it needed doing but he thought he wouldnt be able to sell a 2000 car without it being rebuilt, also just had nitrons fitted. What do people think about the price??

basil brush

5,528 posts

287 months

Thursday 23rd November 2006
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pete said:
tcant said:
No mention of a new clutch though after 28,000 miles ???? ......scratchchin

My late-2003 3.6 has done 28k on its original clutch, as far as I'm aware, and the clutch still feels very healthy.

It also hasn't had a rebuild, and the top end looked fine at the last service, so these "oddities" are out there!

Pete


Late ´02 on engines seem to have been much better, so not really an oddity on the engine front, although 28k on a clutch is good going.

tcant

308 posts

235 months

Friday 24th November 2006
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Mike

I bought my 2000 Tuscan in August, and the prices varied from about £14k up to £18k for a 2000 reg. I went for the bottom end of the range and then had the engine rebuilt taking the price to about £20k (although I have had various other bits and bobs done since).

OK, so £20k sounds a lot for a 2000 reg car, but you get peace of mind and if the body work and interior are in excellent condition its like driving a new car. You will have a well sorted car which should only have reasonable running costs going forward. thumbup

So in answer to your question - In my opinion, I think that is a fair price for a 2000 reg with a brand new rebuild !



mikereynolds

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Saturday 25th November 2006
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Went and looked at two cars that are having engine rebuilds at TVR Power at the moment, had a good chat with Dom about the two cars and went for a spin in one of them, has had a massive amount of things done and ticks all the right boxes so hopefully coming to some sort of agreement on price!! heres the car in question www.pistonheads.com/sales/81975.htm the colour looks much better in the flesh!