Why doesn't everyone buy a Tuscan?
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I used to have a Tuscan and have now got a Sagaris. However i still love everything about the Tuscan i have nothing but admiration for a fantastic car.
However i have just been looking through the Tuscans in the classified section and found my old one for sale for about £16,000.
That is a whole lot of machine for a relativly small sum.
Why doesn't everyone have one? Do they think "£16K to spend, mmmmmm what shall i buy a TVR Tuscan or shall i buy a nice yellow Citroen Saxo, cover it in super glue and ram raid Halfords". I mean come on, yes they cost a few quid to run and obviously insurance could be a problem for the younger or point ladden driver but surely they can't drop in price much lower. I am tempted to buy a clean 2nd hand one and whack in dry storage for the next twenty years. It would have to be a good investment wouldn't it.
Unbelivable!
However i have just been looking through the Tuscans in the classified section and found my old one for sale for about £16,000.
That is a whole lot of machine for a relativly small sum.
Why doesn't everyone have one? Do they think "£16K to spend, mmmmmm what shall i buy a TVR Tuscan or shall i buy a nice yellow Citroen Saxo, cover it in super glue and ram raid Halfords". I mean come on, yes they cost a few quid to run and obviously insurance could be a problem for the younger or point ladden driver but surely they can't drop in price much lower. I am tempted to buy a clean 2nd hand one and whack in dry storage for the next twenty years. It would have to be a good investment wouldn't it.
Unbelivable!
russian rocket said:
£16000 is 40% orignal value,is that no bad for a 7y old car (I dunno opinions)
if we're looking at value for money then yes, it's a fantastic deal... although I recently picked up a £60k car for £16k. And it has a V8. *smarms*
If someone is looking for a second car and have a slush fund of a few thousand pounds, then certainly a Tuscan is something to consider...
Alas the closure of the factory, closure of garages, 'alleged' knackered speed six engine and general poor press make procurement of a speed 6 TVR a fairly unwise investment at the moment. Not rocket science really, they were diffciult to maintain before, now they will be a complete shocker. And I'm a former biggest fan and owner!!
They will always be beautiful cars but I remain suprised at the fairly high prices that are still being asked for 7 year old speed six cars with little use and mileage.
It may just be time to put those rose tinted glasses down...
They will always be beautiful cars but I remain suprised at the fairly high prices that are still being asked for 7 year old speed six cars with little use and mileage.
It may just be time to put those rose tinted glasses down...
Absolutely - the real difference is the support that Fiat, Citroen etc. give to the loyal owners of some of their more eccentric models - and they don't cost a fortune to keep on the road!
TVR as a Company were never that good at Customer relations (I've owned them for over ten years) but at least they recognised the importance of the owners club and the fact that you could still be in the family with a £2k S1 or a £50k Sagaris. It truly allowed enthusiast entry for almost any budget. recently though, TVR have not given a hoot for owners and have just concentrated on shifting new cars - indeed the hands over ears, eyes shut 'la la la' approach to speed 6 customers over valid issues has been completely outrageous. You only need tol trawl the forums to see the heartache of owners who have been treated so badly.
All these issues have been mentioned before ad nauseum but you can only stretch people so far before they eventually move on (even with rose tinted glasses). The Company needed to be run by someone with proper business expereience who shared the passion but that didnt happen. Success stories with other companies (Morgan etc.) because they did just this and put great store in customer loyalty etc.
Will always be wonderful cars but at some point we all need to wake up and smell the coffee over its current dire situation...sorry!
TVR as a Company were never that good at Customer relations (I've owned them for over ten years) but at least they recognised the importance of the owners club and the fact that you could still be in the family with a £2k S1 or a £50k Sagaris. It truly allowed enthusiast entry for almost any budget. recently though, TVR have not given a hoot for owners and have just concentrated on shifting new cars - indeed the hands over ears, eyes shut 'la la la' approach to speed 6 customers over valid issues has been completely outrageous. You only need tol trawl the forums to see the heartache of owners who have been treated so badly.
All these issues have been mentioned before ad nauseum but you can only stretch people so far before they eventually move on (even with rose tinted glasses). The Company needed to be run by someone with proper business expereience who shared the passion but that didnt happen. Success stories with other companies (Morgan etc.) because they did just this and put great store in customer loyalty etc.
Will always be wonderful cars but at some point we all need to wake up and smell the coffee over its current dire situation...sorry!
Parts supply is getting better and TVR,s do have a strong following,yes they have many reliabilty issues esp the speed six but real term running costs against other performance cars ie Ferrari Porsche are competitive.Ask how much a new Boxster or 996 engine is,not cheap.although the amount of blown engines is a lot less.The thing to remember is that no more TVR,s are being produced so supply and demand for decent examples in the future must reflect in the prices and lets face it there will not be any cars like these in the future produced.
Paul
Paul
Alas it is my Tuscan you saw for sale, cdd. Now sold.
I wish I could keep it for longer, and in truth, I would if I weren't moving away. I loved that car, and missed it the moment it left.
Personally I think that now is a very good time to get one. Why?
1. Poor press etc, so prices are low.
2. Engone and clutch problems are permanantly sortable, so no worries if yours is dodgy.
3. It looks and sounds like nothing else, and you will never see its likes again.
4. What will do everything a Tuscan does, for less than £50K?
5. Production changing/halting etc, so rarity value set to go up. Prices will stagnate then better examples WILL become collectors' items.
Keep a slush fund yes, but get the the car. No doubt.Mine now sold. Dammit!
I wish I could keep it for longer, and in truth, I would if I weren't moving away. I loved that car, and missed it the moment it left.
Personally I think that now is a very good time to get one. Why?
1. Poor press etc, so prices are low.
2. Engone and clutch problems are permanantly sortable, so no worries if yours is dodgy.
3. It looks and sounds like nothing else, and you will never see its likes again.
4. What will do everything a Tuscan does, for less than £50K?
5. Production changing/halting etc, so rarity value set to go up. Prices will stagnate then better examples WILL become collectors' items.
Keep a slush fund yes, but get the the car. No doubt.Mine now sold. Dammit!
syko said:
2. Engine and clutch problems are permanantly sortable...
Really?
I've yet to see real evidence of this. Lots of claims, an ill-conceived 3-yr warranty from a company formerly known as TVR Engineering Ltd, but no real evidence... which is why people are so frightened of buying the cars.
I agree that general maintenance costs are quite favourable (compared with other exotica) but the failure frequency and cost of certain components is rather daunting, not to mention the downtime associated with major failures. Recent developments in upgraded clutches and engine reworking are certainly good news but it's too early to say how successful they will be.
RodMod said:
I had a porsche before i bought my Tuscan and while some might say (nothing to do with Oasis)that the porsche is more reliable and pratical compared to the Tuscan it was well how can i put it .....
TAME !
TAME !
Same again here.
TVR's provide a rich, multi-coloured sensory overload driving experience, yet are fairly comfortable, safe and (whisper)reliable.
After TVRs, once-sporty cars are a John Major disappointment - grey and dull.
Edited by tail slide on Monday 26th March 18:54
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